Reader: Banning guns won't turn society into a holly-jolly world with no danger

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Dione Warren.
Our post yesterday about the arrest of Dione Warren after her toddler son shot himself got people talking in part because Warren is a proud gun owner and Second Amendment advocate. Many readers felt the tragedy resulted from neglect, not the presence of an accessible handgun, including this one.

Robert Brehm writes:

If you think banning guns would turn society into this holly jolly world where there is no danger, you are insane. People will still find a way to get ahold of weapons and the stupid ones will still leave it in a place where their children will find it. How does a toddler get his hands on a gun? By climbing to the top of the cabinet, figuring out the gun box combo, then loading, undoing the safety and then firing the gun at themselves. No. This moron left their gun out loaded. Just because this woman is stupid does not mean responsible gun owners should lose their constitutional rights.

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Natasha Schwertley
Natasha Schwertley

What laws, Betel Eli Guese? They aren't passing. And when they do, they are not enforced. And no, last I checked, NY City still follows the 2nd amendment. Plenty of armed citizens there. I don't get why nuts feel the need to lie to try to make their points. You could just admit that you are fine allowing the mentally and violently unstable easy access to lethal weapons and are against responsibility and accountability, as those who make the types of statements you just did typically are.

Betel Eli Guese
Betel Eli Guese

I swore those gun laws that where passed out here would stop these types of shootings. I guess they are doing a realy good job arnt they.

Betel Eli Guese
Betel Eli Guese

Did i mention how much BLOOMBERG likes denver and sticks his nose in our business all the time

Betel Eli Guese
Betel Eli Guese

Go to N.Y. city. I think they are doing a pretty good job taking guns away.

Don Herman
Don Herman

Not one person on earth is claiming banning guns will make it a holly-jolly world. Not one.

Angela Marie
Angela Marie

yes! The parent is the one to blame-not the gun.

Matt Loomis
Matt Loomis

First off, this lady made a mistake that she will live with for the rest of her life. Its really funny that all the anti gun liberal types are always telling us not to judge people, but looking at the comments, there is an awful lot of judging. Second, if we were really concerened with saving lives, why dont we ban swimming pools? Far more children die in accidental drownings every year than from guns. Yes this lady is responsible, and yes she should face charges for trying to cover it up, but beyond that, she will be paying for it for the rest of her life without going to jail.

Steve Reynolds
Steve Reynolds

Of course, the "gun" problem is actually a problem with many of the people who own guns. But, gun purveyors usually beyotche if you try to do ANYTHING to restrict gun ownership, even among people who are too freekin' dangerous to have 'em. You can't say "guns don't kill people, people kill people" and be against background checks.

Si James
Si James

Stupid people's extremely easy access to guns is the problem. The guns themselves would be harmless if it weren't for some of the people who own them.

Shawn Wilson
Shawn Wilson

I have a decent collection of firearms and not one of them is responsible for a human fatality.

Dawn Lopez
Dawn Lopez

This was the parents fault for leaving the child alone and not having the firearm stored properly. Guns don't kill people.

Edgar Mora
Edgar Mora

Until there are fully automated artificially intelligent guns no, the guns "themselves" are not to blame. It is the idiots who wield them and the stupidly easy access to them.

Cathy Bowen
Cathy Bowen

If the gun had not been there, would the outcome be different? yep.

Natasha Schwertley
Natasha Schwertley

Just as guns aren't the problem, they are not the solution, either. Unfortunately too many push blindly for "more guns" with no regard to the responsibility that comes with them. They are not toys. They are legal tools and should be treated as such. And no one can take your guns away, despite what the nuts say. Some of us just want that responsibility exercised.

Scott McMahon
Scott McMahon

It's not the guns, its the general degredation of society. I'm not even 40 yet and the world I live in is considerably different than the world I grew up in. I didn't have to worry about all this crap when I was a kid. I agree with Candie's post below as well. My parents weren't afraid to put me in my place if I acted up, and I'm better for it. There were no "time outs", no coddling or any of that. I had respect for my parents and a good healthy dose of fear of punishments. Its not that there are more guns...just more assholes.

Karlos Dainger
Karlos Dainger

I don't think I have heard anyone push that point...

Kristin Berryhill
Kristin Berryhill

There are way too many f***tards out there that think their rights are being taken away. Guns are not to blame, but there has got to be a better way. Too many are dying because of these idiots.

ryan.cordova
ryan.cordova topcommenter

Strawman win.


The argument isn't that making something illegal will stop crime from ever happening, otherwise we'd never have murder, rape, or theft in the first place.

The argument is that if it's illegal then you can punish someone when they break the law.

ReeferAddict
ReeferAddict

Robert, can you say "reduction to absurdity"? I knew you could!


No one claims gun control laws will make the world perfectly safe, numbnuts. But they have been proven to make it safER. 



DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Luke Tufte  ... Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris' homemade bombs failed to explode.


James Holmes' homemade bombs failed to explode.


Commercial guns rarely fail to fire ... in fact they often "accidentally fire" by themselves.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

... that's what Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris said too ... right up to the moment they began firing.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @Dawn Lopez "Guns don't kill people"


Right ... 3-year-olds with guns kill themselves.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ryan.cordova ... like those Continuous Criminal Enterprises known as Marijuana Dispensaries.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@JimTom ... SafER than they would be without those controls.


Or are you proposing to fully arm everyone in the ghettos?


And that would make Chicago and DC safer??


LOL!





DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@JimTom "Most people or at least their kids in the ghetto are already armed with illegal guns. "


So then, using your gun-loon "logic", those well-armed ghettos should be safer than the lesser-armed suburbs.


When you comprehend the difference between Cause, Correlation and Coincidence you'll realize the utter foolishness of your argument.


JimTom
JimTom

@DonkeyHotay@JimTom Gun violence is down about 25% nation wide without those controls  and only 17% in Chicago with these controls, so yes the stats show they would be safer. . Sounds like they don't work to me. Most people or at least their kids in the ghetto are already armed with illegal guns. 

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