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Marijuana at DIA: Public gets chance to weigh in on total pot ban rule

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Last week, William Breathes told you about a marijuana possession ban at DIA.

Turns out, though, that a new rule outlining sweeping marijuana policy at the airport has yet to be formally adopted and implemented -- and the public will have a chance to weigh in about it at a meeting tomorrow. Get the details below.

In the meantime, an airport spokesperson outlines the proposal, and why officials think it's important.

According to DIA rep Stacey Stegman, "there isn't an official marijuana policy now. Marijuana just falls into the typical drug policy, but it didn't really spell things out specifically."

The working draft certain does. "The rule we're looking at prohibits marijuana in all forms on airport property: consuming, possessing, even growing, because we have a lot of acreage."

That goes for medical marijuana, too. "If you look at the TSA's website," Stegman notes, referring to the Transportation Security Administration, "you'll see a list of prohibited items, and it includes marijuana. It doesn't make an exception for medical, since it's still illegal under federal law."

Why a total prohibition? "We're not going to facilitate transport across state lines," she explains. "We operate like a quasi-federal facility, and our airlines and federal agencies have expressed some concern. We thought this would make it more consistent for all visitors to the airport to understand, rather than having different rules based on what part of the facility you're in."

This last allusion dovetails with a recent Denver Post editorial, which maintains that medical marijuana had been allowed in the terminal prior to security checks. The paper argues that this should be allowed for recreational marijuana as well. But DIA officials clearly believe that a complete ban is simpler to enforce than a partial one.



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Eric Luvender
Eric Luvender

I have to bring my meds when I visit family in CO. Our airports allow us to board with meds plus CO medical shops don't accept my out of state card. I would use rec shops but I heard It is heavily overpriced and low quality.

Steve Holmberg
Steve Holmberg

Whatever...flew out green, flying back green tomorrow.

Carrie Turrentine
Carrie Turrentine

Are there any of your medication(s) you should not be able to have while traveling??People who use MMJ.Are people who suffer from debilitating conditions some of my loved ones as a matter of fact..It amazes me that no one has a problem with the amount of morphine someone takes for say TERMAL CANCER!!But smoking pot makes the same person a "pothead"..People have no right to decide how one deals with,AIDS, Glaucoma, Cancer, cerebral palsy, Multiple scoliosis .People who have medical reasons for taking any medications shouldn't have other people decide how or what they take.

Carrie Turrentine
Carrie Turrentine

People who use MMJ.Are people who suffer from debilitating conditions some of my loved ones as a matter of fact..It amazes me that no one has a problem with the amount of morphine someone takes for say TERMAL CANCER!!But smoking pot makes the same person a "pothead"..People have no right to decide how one deals with,AIDS, Glaucoma, Cancer, cerebral palsy, Multiple scoliosis .People who have medical reasons for taking any medications shouldn't have other people decide how or what they take..

Carrie Turrentine
Carrie Turrentine

You too Gretchen, if you required medication(s)what ones are you willing to give up because people frown on them, and the ailments that you suffer from.??

Carrie Turrentine
Carrie Turrentine

Would you have a problem if DIA told you you couldn't have you medications??

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Rapper Arrested For Drug Possession At Los Angeles Airport


2 Chainzhas been arrested at Los Angeles’ LAX airport for possession of marijuana, promethazine and codeine.

An official media statement provided by Sargent Belinda Nettles, the Public Information Officer for the LAX Airport Police, reads in full:

“At approximately 1 p.m., Airport Police Officers responded for a narcotics investigation
in the baggage check area of Terminal 5.  Transportation Security Administration advised Airport Police officers they found marijuana and a bottle of promethazine with codeine (purple drink/syrup) in the checked bag of 35 year old Tauheed Epps (2 Chainz), a resident of Riverdale, Georgia.

Airport Police Officers investigation revealed Epps was on board an outbound flight, he was removed from the aircraft and arrested.

Epps was transported to the Airport Police station for preliminary processing and transported to and booked at the LAPD Pacific Division Jail without incident.”

whosdp
whosdp

Banned or not, the TSA isn't going to go out of its way to find pot in travelers' luggage.  Bombs and weapons is what it's trying to catch.  Nabbing small amounts of pot has NEVER been a priority.


While DIA has to have some sort of policy prohibiting it, that doesn't mean it's going to clamp down on all flyers with eights in their luggage...

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

I see -- you wanted to cover the story, but did not not want to give proper attribution.  Stegman never returned my call (but I am not a member of the Fourth Estate; merely a citizen).  For me, of course, this immediately raised the question of whether the City was abiding by the Colorado's Sunshine Law guaranteeing that such hearings be open to the public and that notice be given.

Anyone reading the DP's editorial on Jan. 2 should wonder how they managed to print the day of the meeting, but not its time or place.  The Post has been talking out of both sides of its mouth on the subject of cannabis for as long as I have been paying attention to it, so it is dismaying that even some of my friends are quick to supply excuses for its dishonesty.  If the DP opposes seizing patients' medicine and penalizing them and takes a public position, it certainly begs the question of why they would withhold the time and place the public hearing on the issue is to be held -- I am afraid that the answer is all too simple:  the DP doesn't want to stir up controversy or encourage members of the public to attend the hearing; it just wants credit for having claimed to oppose the policy -- besides, if they were to tell us, people who use cannabis might cause a scene, or at least make a bad impression on those who rule.


After numerous phone calls Monday, I finally learned the details of the meeting from a representative of the City Attorney's office.  Almost immediately afterwards, Vincent Carroll himself called to tell me the details too (he was only slightly inaccurate) -- not to explain why the Post failed to inform the public.  I pressed him to agree to print the time and venue for the meeting yesterday, a little more than twenty-four hours in advance of it, but he refused.  He did however allow that the DP might provide the information online.  Anyone who has succeeded in finding it there, please let me know.

This affair is emblematic of what is wrong with our government and our City; even if the Administration met its legal obligation of providing notice, it, in connivance with what passes for our newspaper, sought to minimize public awareness and attendance.  The DP is so fantastically arrogant and contemptuous of its reader's intelligence that it thinks it can get away with stirring the pot to the extent of disclosing the fact of the hearing without actually disclosing its details so that members of the public might attend.  Westword was at one point willing to report on some of the gross deficiencies of the DP, but Michael Roberts could not have been more blase about what seems to me to be an absolutely reprehensible dereliction of journalistic ethics, and this story deliberately ignores the DP disingenouous maneuvering for public approval.

Justin Day
Justin Day

Good idea to show up to this tomorrow if you can make it on short notice...we are after all the first ones in this country to have a say on it.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Eric Luvender  ... tough toenails ... don't do the crime if you can't do the time.



DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Steve Holmberg  ... at your peril.



DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Carrie Turrentine  ... so if some people claim to use HEROIN for medicinal purposes, they should be allowed to carry, possess, use and fly with it anywhere they want, eh fool?


VerryFunney
VerryFunney

@whosdp the TSA has already admitted their procedures are NOT to catch terrorists. It is to train you like a dog. YOU are their enemy. moron.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@whosdp  "that doesn't mean it's going to clamp down on all flyers with eights in their luggage."


Were you born retarded, or did you suffer brain damage after birth?


That's EXACTLY what the clarified DIA Policy states -- they will "clamp down" on anyone/everyone caught with ANY marijuana in DIA.


What part don't you ignorant brain-dead bong-sucking stoners comprehend?



RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

You can agree, but can you read?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase <== the ignorant fucktard who voted for and lobbied for that festering turd A64, which contained the provision that gives ALL landlords, building owners and managers thereof the power to DENY any/all marijuana use.


You got EXACTLY what you voted for, you know-nothing meddling dilettante.


        *** GET REGULATED, chump! ***

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

Try re-reading the post.  The TSA itself has been letting patients fly out of Denver with their medicine for some time.  DIA is not sticking to its guns; it is going out of its way to start seizing patients' medicine and threatening or penalizing them for having it.  There is no justifiable reason for instituting such a policy, and Denver's own airport should not be governed by the whims of dim prohibitionists.  Denver overwhelmingly supports patients who use medical cannabis, and our City government (including the Department of Aviation) has no business whatsoever in mounting this assault on their rights.  DIA is Denver's and it lies in Colorado; those are ample reasons to demand that this policy be recinded and that those trying to institute it be fired.

whosdp
whosdp

@DonkeyHotay@whosdpDude...what, are you a professional rabble rouser?!?  The books are chocked full of unenforced laws and ordinances.  Do you really think TSA is going to start rifling through everyone's luggage searching for small amounts of pot?  Have you ANY inkling of what that would entail?


I've traveled to Europe, Asia and Africa with small amounts of pot and have never had any problems.  Laws are dandy and fine...they allow for some sorts of enforcement, should some moron decide to pack a pound of the stuff in his/her luggage.


For the average traveler, nothing will change...

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase <== ignorant fuckwit who now feigns he didn't read A64 -- which EXPLICITY allows Building Owners/Operators the power to BAN ALL marijuana use/possession/activity.


YOU got what YOU Voted For!



DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase  "The TSA itself has been letting patients fly out of Denver with their medicine for some time."


Those corrupt agents should be fired for their dereliction of duty. 


YOU voted for and pimped for that festering turd A64 which EXPLICITLY ALLOWS any/all Building Owners, Landlords and Property Managers the power to BAN ALL marijuana possession and use.


YOU and the rest of the A64 idiots got EXACTLY what you VOTED FOR!


Now bend over and receive that FIST of REGULATION you begged the government to ram up your rectum.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@whosdp "For the average traveler, nothing will change..."


The only thing you got correct ... since the average traveler is not a stoner and doesn't carry marijuana or other illegal drugs or contraband into airports.


For clueless stoners who are pig-ignorant enough to falsely assume the laws don't apply to them ... not so much.


hth

whosdp
whosdp

@DonkeyHotay  "Hey boss, it's Michael Roberts...just want you to know that the donk is still commenting his little head off.  Yep, he's a Top Commenter!"

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@whosdp ... since when are smoking pipes illegal to pack in CHECKED baggage?


Keep inventing fantasies to support your depraved delusion that these pot prohibitions won't actually be enforced against fools who are caught ignoring the law.

Denial -- ain't just a river in Egypt.

It's that kind of stinkin' thinkin' that keeps a never ending stream of fools flowing into the insatiable maw of the Criminal JustUs System and the for-profit Private Prison Industrial Complex..

whosdp
whosdp

@DonkeyHotay  So, you must have expected the fine folks at DIA to come out in favor of flying with pot?!?  Of COURSE they're going to STATE the obvious...the devil is in the details.  

The 62 year old brought a pipe (never heard of using an aluminum can?) along for the ride...THAT is what probably got him busted, not the 2.5 grams in a film canister.  I think it's clear that the TSA won't have to worry about Don Quixote's luggage containing pot, so why do you care?

Oh, I forgot...that's what it takes to be a ''Top Commenter!"  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@whosdp "Clearly, he hadn't made any effort to conceal what he was trying to do"


a checked bag on March 28 that contained a marijuana brownie, two pipes and about 2.5 grams of marijuana in a film canister and pill bottle.


@whosdp "That's a pretty far cry from carrying a small amount, sans pipe, on one's person or in luggage."


2.5 GRAMS inside his checked luggage inside a film canister.


Don't let REALITY spoil your delusion that DIA / TSA won't actually enforce the marijuana prohibitions they've just reiterated publicly that they would enforce.


No worries, it could NEVER happen to you, you're just too cool for law enforcement ... which is exactly what

62 year old John Hargesheimer thought too.


LOL!

whosdp
whosdp

@DonkeyHotay  What an interesting anecdote!  The pipe was probably metal, spotted in x-ray, and investigated further.  Clearly, he hadn't made any effort to conceal what he was trying to do.  That's a pretty far cry from carrying a small amount, sans pipe, on one's person or in luggage.  

The whole argument is pretty ridiculous, really...whom do hardcore prohibitionists intend to protect with this alleged crackdown?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@whosdp

Fairbanks man charged after TSA search uncovers marijuana


FAIRBANKS — A prominent Fairbanks engineer faces a misdemeanor drug possession charge after he allegedly called the Transportation Security Administration to accuse an agency official of taking marijuana he said was for medical use from a checked bag.

John Michael Hargesheimer, 62, founder and principal in charge of Fairbanks-based engineering firm Nortech, checked a bag on March 28 that contained a marijuana brownie, two pipes and about 2.5 grams of marijuana in a film canister and pill bottle, according to a criminal complaint filed against him last week.
A TSA officer found the items, confiscated them, alerted state airport police and put the bag on the plane without the items.

That evening, according to the complaint, Hargesheimer called TSA, asked to speak to a supervisor and reported that a TSA officer had stolen his marijuana. The TSA official told him airport police had seized it, not stolen it.

A few minutes later Hargesheimer reportedly called airport police, a state agency. He told police he had marijuana in his medicine bag and, according to the complaint, “stated that he thought small quantities under a 1/2 ounce to an ounce, for medical uses, was no big deal.”

Under the terms of a 1998 voter initiative, Alaskans with medical marijuana cards can have up to an ounce of marijuana, although even with a card there is no legal way to buy the drug or even its seeds. Medical marijuana is not legal under federal law.

Hargesheimer was charged April 12 with sixth-degree drugs misconduct, a misdemeanor.

whosdp
whosdp

@FreeTheWeedConservatively, I've gotten ten such notes from the TSA in my luggage since 9/11.  Rifling of luggage starts with some suspicious looking items spotted in x-ray.  Again, agents are looking for incendiary devices or otherwise dangerous contraband, not a few buds cleverly stashed inside articles of clothing.  On my last trip abroad in 2012, what appeared obvious was how much more scrutinized baggage going INTO the States was than flights from, say, Rome, to Berlin.


Curious, I asked a screener in Berlin, who patted me down every time I left the gate and reentered, waiting for a delayed flight to Newark.  He said TSA's regulations are only trumped by Israels' travel rules.  Elsewhere in the world, rules are more relaxed.


The more items TSA puts on its hit list, the less effective it is in preventing catastrophes caused by the bad guys.  Even DIA officials talking about the pot issue aren't sure how they'd handle finding small amounts of pot in travelers' luggage.  Some say they'll confiscate it, some say they might ratchet up the beef.


I suspect the powers that be at the TSA are overwrought with ambivalence over the issue...they have much bigger fish to fry...

FreeTheWeed
FreeTheWeed

whosdp you sound like someone who hasn't flown since 9.11. TSA routinely rifles through passenger luggage confiscating contraband.

They leave a little note card behind in the checked baggage.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase "The Airport belongs to us"


All Your Base Are Belong To Us!


@RobertChase "There is no good reason for Ms. Day to head the Aviation Department, for Michael Hancock to be Mayor, or for criminal police to roam our streets"


Except for the annoying little reason called DEMOCRACY! ... the PEOPLE get the Politicians they ELECT! Denver DESERVES the Biblical Creationist Hancock, and all those appointed by his administration.


YOU VOTED FOR A64 -- YOU DESERVE that festering turd A64 -- with ALL its rancid provisions, prohibitions, restrictions, taxes and restraints -- rammed down your throat on a daily basis.


Reap what ye sow, asshole!





RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay  The Airport belongs to us, and we don't want to seize patients' medicine and harass them, at our expense!  Get it?

There is no good reason for Ms. Day to head the Aviation Department, for Michael Hancock to be Mayor, or for criminal police to roam our streets, and we can change all those things.

Garney
Garney

@DonkeyHotay "

That's EXACTLY what you clueless fucktards wrote into the amendment and exactly what you clueless fucktards voted for.


Were you too stupid to read, much less comprehend A64 before you blindly fucked yourself in the ass with it?"

lol. I didn't write 64, nor did I vote for it.


But you're still angry.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Garney ... that festering turd A64 explicity allows any Building/Property Owner or Operator to CONTROL THE ACTIONS of Stoners while on said property wrt marijuana.


That's EXACTLY what you clueless fucktards wrote into the amendment and exactly what you clueless fucktards voted for.


Were you too stupid to read, much less comprehend A64 before you blindly fucked yourself in the ass with it?



Garney
Garney

@DonkeyHotayNo, you're clearly the pissed off person here... pissed off at other people's actions that you can't control, let alone change from your seat in front of your keyboard.


What a sad, pathetic little existence you must lead.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Garney ... looks like dilettante Robert Chase and the other A64 idiots are the ones who are mad ... mad they didn't FUCKING READ A64 before they voted for that piece of crap.



DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase <== whiny bitch who voted FOR A64 which EXPLICITLY ALLOWS Building owners/operators the power to DENY all marijuana use/possession/activity on their property.


You got EXACTLY what you VOTED FOR, moron!

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@Garney  He is a paid police operative, crazy, or both, and "angry" describes the affect he feigns in virtually all of his posts

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Garney  "So you admit that local law enforcement are the ones who decide whether or not to let someone go through on their flight and not the TSA "


Fail!


Local Denver PD would have the final say in whether or not to CRIMINALLY arrest the suspect.


TSA has an absolute right and duty to DENY ACCESS to the Contraband, and to refuse entry/detain those who willfully violate said policy.


If the person gives up the discovered contraband, and isn't a complete asswipe about it, they are usually allowed to continue on their way. 


Though expect their ID to be put into the Government's ever growing "naughty" list.


Garney
Garney

@DonkeyHotay

So you admit that local law enforcement are the ones who decide whether or not to let someone go through on their flight and not the TSA, which has no law enforcement or detainment capabilities whatsoever.

Gotcha.


Also, why are you so concerned with people following the law when you regularly advocate that people illegally purchase cannabis from friends and dealers?

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@Garney@DonkeyHotayThe assertion is a total non-sequitur; Donkey is expert at derailing debate in this manner.  The point is that DIA would not be sticking to its guns by going after patients -- that would be a reversal of policy, not a continuation of it.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Garney ... it is their duty to seize/deny all contraband and their policy to report any discovered criminal activity to the appropriate local/federal law enforcement agency, as when they discover large caches of suspected illegal $$, or cases of counterfeit goods.


Marijuana -- along with other illegal drugs -- is on their contraband list, and should be confiscated along with any other discovered contraband.


Should they let a methhead tweaker pass with his ice and pipe when they discover it in his carry-on baggage?



Garney
Garney

@DonkeyHotay"Those corrupt agents should be fired for their dereliction of duty. "


It's not part of the TSA agent's duty to actively screen for cannabis, nor is it their job to enforce local laws regarding cannabis.

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