Photos: Take a tour of the JonBenet Ramsey house, back on the market -- again

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Big photos below.
The Boulder home where six-year-old JonBenet Ramsey was murdered in 1996 has been a tough sell. In 2011, as we reported at the time, the property was put on the market for a sale price of $2.3 million -- but no one bought it.

Three years later, the same owners are trying again, and they've lowered the listed price to $1.985 million.

Take a photo tour of a beautiful home with a dark past below.

Back in 2011, co-owner Carol Schuller Milner, the daughter of televangelist Robert Schuller, talked to us about the home, and gave us permission to use the following photos. She told us that she and her husband, Tim Milner, initially moved from Southern California to Boulder "to do ministry with college students and downtown residents. So we bought a small home in the Mapleton neighborhood off Pearl Street. But I have an artificial leg -- I lost it in a motorcycle accident when I was thirteen -- and at the end of 2003, I contracted flesh-eating bacteria. All of a sudden, I was so sick. I ended up on crutches for four months -- and navigating those creaky, hundred-year-old stairs made us realize that we needed a place with a downstairs bedroom, or room to put one in."

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Hence, she and her husband began house-hunting -- and when a friend suggested they take a look at the onetime Ramsey residence, a 1920s-era dwelling at 749 15th Street, which had sat vacant for several years, she was initially reluctant. "We had four kids at the time" -- they now have five -- "and I'm a very visual person, because I'm a writer and director. I'm very sensitive and spiritually based. But then I checked myself and thought, 'It's stupid not to just walk through it,' not expecting for a minute that we'd actually buy it."

Her mind changed quickly. "The minute I walked through the door, this sense of peace came over me, and I absolutely fell in love with the home."

The couple bought the property in 2004, but moved out of it in 2005/2006 because various projects kept pulling them away to California. As such, they put it up for sale in 2008, and again in 2009. But it had no takers -- and while she understands why people might be reluctant to live in a place where such a terrible crime happened, she hoped buyers would come along with a different perspective.

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"Some people are making this a dark monument as opposed to thinking about the restoration that can occur after a tragedy," she said. "And I believe that in our darkest tragedies, God doesn't run. He comes. When I lost my leg, I was in a ditch by myself for half an hour before help came. Before that, I wasn't really in the kind of space to think about God or that kind of stuff, even though I was raised in it. But as I laid there, I felt a nearness to God that I'd never felt before. And I know he doesn't abandon the broken. It's not in His nature.

"As a Christian, we have a different view on death," she continued. "Death is not the last word, and God is not bound by death. I just don't believe it's in his character to abandon us, and that effects my ability to look at this house and see all the beautiful things about it."

Will someone finally be able to look at the home as Schuller Milner does? Click here to check out the current listing. Here are more photos of the home.

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Continue to see more photos of the JonBenet Ramsey house, which is back on sale -- again.

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SusanMarieLaveau
SusanMarieLaveau

It's a lovely home, and a very sad place. However I don't see why someone couldn't come in, totally remodel it & make it "new" again.

Ryan Romero
Ryan Romero

Come on people, it's an infamous murder house of course its going to be hard to sale! They knew that when they bought it and if they could afford to let a multi-million dollar house sit empty then I don't really feel so bad for em..

Suzanne Houston Nash
Suzanne Houston Nash

If they really want to sell it, lower the price. Someone will buy it for $400,000.

Zackary Ford
Zackary Ford

Let's make it a murder mystery dinner show!!

Momo McHoney
Momo McHoney

I think Elizabeth should buy it, since it's not that big of a deal....

Edah Schmidt
Edah Schmidt

Would you be able to buy this house if it was everything you wanted in a house, was not going to be used for profit on it's past. it's financially a deal compared to others you have looked at. It is your dream house...but.

Momo McHoney
Momo McHoney

That house should be torn down! No one wants to live in a house where someone was murdered, esp a child....

Elizabeth Rowan
Elizabeth Rowan

It's really silly to avoid a home because of the actions of a person.

parrotenchantress
parrotenchantress

Hmmm, how do 'missionaries' afford a multi million dollar house in the first place?  Could all that money come from her father?  I wonder how he got it? 

John Mccall
John Mccall

No way I would ever consider living in that house, ever.

Suzanne Houston Nash
Suzanne Houston Nash

If they really want to sell it, lower the price. Undoubtedly they are asking too much.

Miri Ladenburger
Miri Ladenburger

I think they should rent it out to the rich college kids. They would love a big house for many roommates

Mnizzle
Mnizzle

Would be like living on Cielo Dr in Benedict Canyon - every (e.g.) full moon & Christmas you'd have a bunch of kooks stalking your house.


Pass

Andrew Ruibal
Andrew Ruibal

Just a house very sad what happened but come on

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Psycho mommy, in the bathroom, with the candlestick.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

... there wasn't any problem selling the Boulder Condo where Sid Wells was murdered ... or any other house where Boulder murders have taken place.



michael.roberts
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Simply put, Andrew. Thanks for weighing in.

ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay No, Patsy did not do it.  In 2008 male DNA from an unknown person was recovered from two separate clothing items the child was wearing.  The authorities now admit the family members  are innocent.

DonkeyHotay
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@ritterkreuz44  ... utter nonsense.


The existence of extraneous DNA -- it's everywhere -- doesn't mean the source of that DNA was the killer.


No sane rational objective person claims that John and Patsy are innocent.


Patsy killed "that child", and John helped cover it up.


ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Here's a tip for you.  Rich people don't kill their kids.  In all the stories you'll ever read about parents killing their kids you'll find that in most cases you're dealing with families that are in very seriously disadvantaged economic circumstances. Trailer trash, for want of a better term.  

Rich people have enough resources to hire people to do the menial tasks in life that put added burdens of stress on  poorer people.  Children are a source of joy to rich people.  They would have no motivation for killing their own children.  Poverty causes child murders.  Rich people don't kill their kids.  

ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 I guess you don't fit the category of a sane rational person because there is absolutely zero evidence that proves the Ramseys had any involvement in their daughters killing.  Try reading Lawrence Schiller's book on the subject.  Even though Schiller believed the Ramseys were guilty his book is written in an objective enough manner for the reader to only come away with the belief that they were totally innocent.  Why?  Because in over 700 pages of writing Schiller presents zero evidence that implicates the Ramseys. 

DonkeyHotay
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@ritterkreuz44 "Rich people don't kill their kids."


Utter nonsense.


... and besides, Patsy Ramsey was low-rent trailer trash -- from West Virginia!


She MARRIED up.


You can take the girl out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl.


Her vainglorious infatuation with superficial beauty pageants, and her vicarious living via JonBenet to compensate for her own aging and deteriorating beauty, along with her simple-minded hillbilly christianity were the perfect recipe for mommy's mental breakdown.


ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Your reply is utter nonsense.  Cite me two cases where rich people have killed their kids.  Patsy was the wife  of a rich man.  The Ramseys employed a housekeeper and a gardener.  They could slough off the stress of daily life onto their hired help. 

 Your attacks on Patsy Ramsey's character are complete balderdash.  Patsy was a refined lady, displaying the charm that she had acquired by participating in beauty pageants.

 The Ramseys had a virtually stress free life.  They had no reason to be short-tempered or intolerant of their children.  

You are quite apparently a troll.  Yes it is entirely true that rich people don't kill their kids.  I'm calling you out.  Cite me two examples where rich people have killed their kids.  Either put up or shut-up Mr. Troll.  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 "Yes it is entirely true that rich people don't kill their kids."


You really are quite a delusional idiot, aren't you?



Psychiatrist Phillip Resnick on Why Parents Kill Their Own Kids


Over the course of his 40-year career, Resnick has worked on 40 to 60 cases involving parents who killed their children. Although he cannot offer a mental diagnosis or legal opinion in the Powers’ case, he can discuss the motivations of parents who kill and what we know about them. About 250 to 300 children are murdered by their parents each year.


Younger children are much more likely to be killed than teenagers. If a child is killed for being “mouthy,” the remark that came out here, that’s more likely to lead to fatal battering. [Usually, in such cases,] a 3-to-5-year-old is thrown against a wall in an overzealous attempt at discipline and dies — as opposed to [a parent] planning to kill and shooting them with a gun.


Five main circumstances in which parents kill their children.


The first is “altruistic.” The classic case is the mother who plans to take her own life and believes that the children are better off in heaven with her. 


Number Two is the case in which the parent is acutely psychotic. 


The third type is fatal battering [as described above]. 


The fourth is [to get rid of] an unwanted baby, for example an infant born out of wedlock. 


The final category is spousal revenge, [in which a parent kills the children to hurt the partner], typically after infidelity.

DonkeyHotay
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@ritterkreuz44


Affluent Mother charged with murder of her three children appears in court 

A mother appeared in court today charged with the murder of three young disabled children.

Standing in the dock with her husband looking on from the public gallery, Tania Clarence, 42, wept as she was accused of killing her three-year-old twin sons, Ben and Max, and four year-old daughter, Olivia, at their London home.

Visibly devastated, her husband, Gary Clarence, 43, also broke down in tears as he locked eyes with his wife.

Mrs Clarence, accused of three counts of murdering a child aged over one year old, spoke only to confirm her name, age and address. No formal plea was entered and Mrs Clarence was remanded in custody.

Police discovered the children's bodies after being called to the family's five-bedroom home in Thetford Road in the wealthy south west London suburb of New Malden at 9.30pm on Tuesday night. 

DonkeyHotay
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@ritterkreuz44

Wealthy Mom Charged With Killing 8-Year-Old Son Says It Was a Mercy Killing


When 
Jude, an 8-year-old boy with special needs, was found in a hotel room in February, foaming at the mouth after apparently ingesting a fatal dose of pills, cops said his mother was responsible for the child's death

Now 
Gigi Jordan is admitting it.

The wealthy Manhattan mom told the Daily News in a lengthy exclusive that she 
killed her own child, but she wants the world to forgive her ... because it was a "mercy killing."

DonkeyHotay
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@ritterkreuz44


Fla. Mom Kills Kids for "Talking Back," Say Police

Police say a 50-year-old mother has been charged with shooting and killing her two teenage kids in an upscale suburb of Tampa, Fla because she was fed up with them being "mouthy."

According to an arrest affidavit, Julie Powers Schenecker, a 50-year-old Army officer's wife, shot her 13-year-old son Beau in the head twice "for talking back" while they were in the family car on their way to his soccer practice. The report said Schenecker then returned to their upscale home and shot her 16-year-old daughter Calyx in the face while the girl studied at her computer. Police say they found Schenecker drenched in blood on her back porch.

According to an arrest affidavit, Julie Powers Schenecker, a 50-year-old Army officer's wife, shot her 13-year-old son Beau in the head twice "for talking back" while they were in the family car on their way to his soccer practice. The report said Schenecker then returned to their upscale home and shot her 16-year-old daughter Calyx in the face while the girl studied at her computer. 

The Tampa Palms neighborhood here is the kind of place people move to get away from crime.

Stucco homes with neatly trimmed lawns and spacious lanais nestle inside gated “villages” with names like Lancaster and Oxford Place. Real estate agents point out the proximity of “topnotch” schools, the 18-hole golf course and other upscale amenities that “cater to a perpetually-on-vacation-like lifestyle.”


But in recent weeks, the residents have become all too aware of how deceptive surface appearances can be. On Jan. 28, the police arrived at a two-story house on a quiet cul-de-sac in Tampa Palms to find Julie Schenecker unconscious on the patio, blood on her white bathrobe. Inside were the bodies of her two children, Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13.

Ms. Schenecker, 50, the wife of a high-level military intelligence officer, has been charged with the murders. 

ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay A high level military intelligence officer makes about $60,000 a year.  You think $60,000 a year is rich do you?  Guess you strike out on this one.  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 


Mother stabs toddler in apparent murder-suicide attempt,


FAIRVIEW TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- A York County mother stabbed herself and her 2-year-old son in a murder-suicide attempt Friday morning, according to police

The stabbing happened around 8 a.m. at a home in an upscale Fairview Township neighborhood along Foxfire Lane. 
When police arrived, they said they found the 37-year-old mother with a stab wound to the chest, and the child with a stab wound to the neck.

"It appears that the mother may have intended to kill the child and kill herself," said Lt. Jason Loper, acting Fairview Township Police Chief. "But it's still being investigated."

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 ... and the AVERAGE salary for an intelligence office is $82,958 per year ... with HIGH LEVEL salaries rising to $120k per year, plus benefits.


And you have NO FUCKING IDEA how much $$ the COUPLE had from family / estate / inheritance / investment sources.


Keep failing, you clueless LYING nitwit.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 ... you pathetic little pig-ignorant imbecile, your laughable absurd assertion that rich people don't kill their children has been incontrovertibly refuted.


Now go invent some other delusion to attempt to justify and deny Patsy Ramsey's GUILT in the KILLING of her OWN DAUGHTER.



ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Any nurse with an engineer husband lives in an upscale neighborhood.  You're going to have to try an awful lot harder Bozo.  John Ramsey was worth over 8 million bucks on paper and he had major money coming in as an executive for Lockheed.  His bonus was $118,000.  That means his salary was likely well over $500,000 a year.  He had one million bucks in his bank account.


Just because someone lives in an upscale neighborhood doesn't make them rich.  Looks like you strike out again Bozo. 

ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Everybody who lives in an upscale neighborhood is rich are they? I don't think so pal. Any couple making $80,000 a year can live in an upscale neighborhood.  John Ramsey made $8 million on the sale of his business to Lockheed.  Ramsey had over a miilion bucks in his bank account.  He owned his own airplane and hired a pilot to fly it.  The family routinely flew to vacation spots in their private plane.  Looks like you struck out again pal. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 <== you really are a clueless imbecile, aren't you?



Tampa, Florida -- Hillsborough deputies have confirmed the bodies found in a house fire at an upscale Tampa neighborhood were the family that lived there, and that it appears to be a murder-suicide.


Hillsborough Col. Donna Lusczynski told reporters on Friday that the bodies recovered from the burned-out Avila mansion were that of Darrin Campbell, his wife Kimberly and their two children Megan and Colin.


Investigators say Darrin had purchased fireworks, gas cans and gasoline in the days before the family was killed. They believe he then shot his wife and children each in the head on Tuesday night or early Wednesday morning with a .40-caliber handgun he bought a handgun at Shooter's World on Fletcher Avenue last year.


Lusczynski says Campbell then scattered the fireworks and gas around the house before setting it ablaze.


"He systematically shot his son, his daughter, and his wife in the head, then went and bought fireworks, scattered them throughout the house, doused the house with gasoline, set the house on fire and then shot himself," says Lusczynski.



The Campbells lived in a 6,000-square-foot home. The million-dollar home was located in Avila, a gated community known for its resident sports stars and CEOs. 


Located on one of Tampa's most exclusive streets, in one of its most secure, tony neighborhoods, the five-bedroom, five-bath home had a pool and spa, and was graced by tall palm trees.

ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Your numbers are balderdash.  Quote a source.  Even if your numbers are correct, $120 thousand a year is chicken feed.  That in no way comes anywhere close to being considered rich.  In fact it's pusillanimous in the extreme when you're talking about rich.  Oh, and neither do you have any idea how much money they had from other sources so in other words they might have had zippo.  Thus again you have failed to come up with someone who was certifiably rich.  But keep right on displaying what a fraud you are pal.  You're doing an A-1 job of showing what a loud-mouthed idiot you are. 

ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Well Donkeybrain you've completely failed to come up with a single case of a certifiable RICH couple that killed their kid.  Looks like I win Donkey, and you have proven what a pathetic loser you are.  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 ... doesn't matter how much $$ John was making, or had, since it didn't STOP Psycho Patty from killing JonBenet.


You lose again, chump.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 ... keep spewing your delusional idiocy ... no wonder you're a fan of that delusional homicidal wretch Patsy Ramsey.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 <== does it hurt to be so fucking stupid?


Mother Jumps To Death With Son Strapped To Chest

A Manhattan lawyer committed suicide yesterday by jumping from her eighth floor apartment with her 10-month-old son strapped to her chest. Miraculously, the child survived with minor injuries. Cynthia Wachenheim, 44, was an associate attorney for the New York State Supreme Court and graduated from Columbia Law School. According to her neighbor Christian Johnson, yesterday she had a loud argument with her husband, who works in sales.


“He was yelling at her today,” Johnson tells the Daily News. “It made me stop and listen. He was asking her why she wouldn’t pick up the phone. He kept repeating it. Then, the baby started crying.” Shortly before 1 p.m. the husband, Hal Bacharach, left the upscale Bradhurst Avenue building, called The Sutton. Less than three hours later, Wachenheim jumped to her death.


Two NYPD officers happened to be sitting in their patrol car outside the building and saw the horrible incident. The baby, Keston, was on Wachenheim's chest in a harness, but she landed on her back and the child survived. "I heard a scream, a scared scream," witness Steven Domingueztells the Post. "I noticed a woman was falling. As she was coming down, she was coming down on her back. I saw the baby bounce on her chest and fall to the concrete. The baby started crying."


A seven page suicide note was found in the home. One police source tells the Daily News, "The note said she was not happy and she talked about what she planned to do... saying to her husband, ‘I love you. I’m making you suffer. You’re going to think I’m evil.' She thinks she’s a failing mother. On the last page, she refers to postpartum depression. 


She was supposed to see a therapist, but she blew him off." The source also says Wachenheim was convinced her baby had cerebral palsy, but doctors insisted the child was healthy.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 ... you really are a shitsucking weasel, aren't you boy?


Only 12.83% of American HOUSEHOLDS earn $120k per year, and that's not including whatever investment income, spousal income, and pre-existing estate $$ they had.


Only  cluless delusional cunt like you would make the absurd assertion that "rich people don't kill their kids".


It's proven FALSE by reality ...

... and the uncomfortable FACT that your precious Patsy Ramsey DID kill JonBenet, regardless of how rich or poor you think she was.


MENTAL ILLNESS does NOT discriminate based on income levels.





DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 "Rich people don't kill their kids."


Only a delusional imbecile like you would make such a laughably absurd statement.



Pennsylvania Mom Drowns Son Because ‘Voices’ Told Her To


Laurel Michelle Schlemmer, 40, of McCandless, PA  lived in a lovely home in what has been described as a quiet upscale neighborhood. 


A religious woman, she was a stay-at-home mother which gave her the opportunity to focus her attention on her three sons, who were 3, 6 and 7 years of age.


Unfortunately, Ms. Schlemmer has reportedly struggled with mental illness and/or instability for some time now. Things came to a head on Tuesday morning when, responding to what she called “crazy voices”, after packing her 7-year-old off to school on the school bus at around 8:40 am, she ordered her two younger boys, 3-year-old Luke and 6-year-old Daniel, to take off their pajamas and get in the bathtub.


According to an Allegheny County criminal complaint, “Schlemmer said after the boys got into the tub, she got into the tub ‘fully clothed’ and ‘crazy voices’ were telling her to push the boys into the water. Schlemmer explained that at one point she [was] sitting on top of the boys while they were under the water in the tub.”


By her convoluted logic, the woman apparently “thought she could be a better mother” to her oldest son “if the other two boys weren’t around,” at least that’s what she told the detectives.


She also believed the two younger boys “would be better off in heaven,” a point few would quibble with given the quality of Ms. Schlemmer’s mothering.

ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Listen Donkey Dildo, $120,000 is not rich.   Someone making $120,000 bucks a year is lucky to be putting 1,000 bucks a year into his retirement account.  You lose turkey.

The Ramseys were worth over 8 million bucks.  The Ramseys were self-made millionaires.  The two of them were just middle class when they were married and together they built Access Graphics from the ground up.

There was never any assertion made by police that Patsy Ramsey was mentally ill. 

So DonkeyBozo find me someone who had 8 million bucks that killed their kid.  Stop trying to pass off these paupers as rich people.  

ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Well Donkey Dickhead looks like you strike out again.  Tons of people live in upscale neighborhoods.  That doesn't make them rich.  Any clown making $100,000 a year can live in an upscale neighborhood. But that is light-years away from being considered rich. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 ... keep making up BULLSHIT, loser.


Fact is, EVERY ONE of those examples cited are in the top percentiles of Income / Wealth in the U$A, and every one of them is far richer than you'll ever be.


You got PUNKED in public, with your utterly idiotic assertion that "rich people don't kill their kids".


Does matter how much the Ramsey's were worth, since psycho-bitch mommy Patsy KILLED JonBenet.


Wealth -- or lack thereof -- has NOTHING to DO with the killing, other than perhaps assuring they can afford to BUY THEIR WAY out of prosecution for their crimes.



ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 So you lost knuckle-dragger.  You couldn't come up with one case of someone who was certifiably rich that killed their kid.  Looks like I made my point in spades loser.  Listen DonkeyBrain, anybody who has a net worth less than 5 million bucks is simply not rich.  Now get your ass back to work DonkeyDickhead and come up with 2 cases of couples whose net worth was over 5 million bucks who killed their kids. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 <== keep eating shit, sucker.


MULTI- Millionaire mother claims she killed her autistic son to protect him from 'sexual abuse at the hands of his monstrous father' 

Multi-millionaire Gigi Jordan is accused of murdering her autistic 8-year-old son by force-feeding him prescription drugs in a luxury Manhattan hotel room in 2010. 

As she awaits next year’s trial, Jordan, 51, is being detained at Rikers Island, where she spoke to the New York Daily News to explain why she killed her son, Jude, and attempted to take her own life.
 

The self-made pharmaceutical multi-millionaire claims that sexual abuse that Jude allegedly suffered at the hands of his biological father, as well as the alleged mob involvement and billion dollar scams of his adoptive father drove her to the ‘mercy killing.’


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 <== pathetic delusional fuckwit thinks there is a place that "certifies" rich people.


You LOST chump. Rich people -- especially the MOMMIES -- DO Kill their Children.





ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 This woman is certifiably insane. Any person who is certifiably insane can kill someone no matter how much money they have.  The Ramseys were not insane.  They had no mental health issues whatsoever. 

Since you're grasping for straws I'm going to have to reign you in.  My statement is that "Rich people, who are not certifiably insane, do not kill their kids." After all this whole discussion is based on the frame of reference of the Ramseys, so the discussion has to occur within that framework. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 <== hey fucktard, here's some more SHIT for you to EAT !!


Millionaire killed daughter 'he thought was Satan'

A millionaire insurance executive killed his two-year-old daughter after becoming obsessed with the horror film Bug, the Old Bailey has heard.

Alberto Izaga, 36, shouted "Die, die, die" and "I have to kill her" moments after repeatedly smashing his daughter Yanire's head against a wooden floor in his £1 million flat overlooking the Houses of Parliament.


He was hallucinating and hearing voices and had become convinced his family were possessed by the devil. 

Izaga believed he was "involved in the act of destroying a malign and Satanic entity" when he attacked his daughter, the court heard. 

He also believed he was part of a sect based on the philosophies of the Jesuits which was recruiting executives like him and trying to take over the financial world. 

The court heard that until his "psychotic" episode Izaga was a devoted and loving father.


He woke up on June 3 last year at 4.30am and began ranting about God and humanity not really existing and calling for the little girl to die.

ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 See loser you can't do it.  I made my point in spades and you can't disprove it.  That makes you a lying jack-ass of a troll.  You just love to shoot your mouth off and show everybody what a blowhard you are.  Well you've done an awfully good job of it DonkeyDildo. 

 Face up to it nerd.  The Ramseys were in an upper class of people.  Those people are called "the rich."   And as I have already proven by your inability to disprove it, "Rich people don't kill their kids."  Now suck on that wisdom for a while DonkeyBrain.  It will make you wiser.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 <== YOU LOST, LOSER.


RICH PEOPLE -- MULTI-Millionaires -- DO KILL THEIR CHILDREN.


No go eat some more of your own shit, sucker.


Patsy Ramsey KILLED JonBenet, and John helped cover up the crime.



ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Same problem DonkeyDildo a millionaire is not rich.  If the guy isn't worth at least 5 million bucks he doesn't qualify.  Besides you're giving me cases of people who are certifiably insane.  The Ramseys were not suffering from any mental health issues.  They were more stable than you are.  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ritterkreuz44 ... wassa matta, punk? ... having trouble swallowing that SHIT SANDWICH you got served?



ritterkreuz44
ritterkreuz44

@DonkeyHotay @ritterkreuz44 Nice try DickBrain but citing cases of certifiably insane people doesn't fit the background of this discussion, which is the Ramseys.  The police never made a statement alleging Patsy Ramsey had any mental illness.  

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