Update: Hash limits and new pot edibles requirements pass, heading to governor's desk

Categories: Marijuana

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A gram of hash from Colorado Pain Management.
Update: Both House Bill 1361, which limits hash sales, and House Bill 1366, which further regulates edibles sales, were approved by the state Senate on third reading yesterday and now head to the governor's desk for signing.

For more on what the bills will do, see our previous coverage below.

Original post, 12:50 p.m. May 6: A bill limiting how much marijuana concentrate can be sold to in-state and out-of-state residents who are age 21 and older, as well as legislation placing new rules on marijuana edibles, appear on-track to become state law as lawmakers try to wrap up a 2014 session loaded with weed bills by Wednesday afternoon.

House Bill 1361 would charge the Department of Revenue with establishing how much hash or concentrates equate to an ounce of marijuana. The measure has already been green-lit by the state House, and it passed on a second reading in the state Senate yesterday without any amendments. As a result, the bill could have its third reading as early as today. As we pointed out last month, the bill's wording doesn't seem to make it clear whether the DOR is meant to measure the total THC in an ounce or the total amount of hash or concentrate that can be produced from an ounce. Neither does the legislation address the potency of the flowers to be tested.

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Representative Frank McNulty co-sponsored HB 1361.
Whatever the final interpretation, the net effect adds up to the same thing: Consumers will no longer be able to walk out of a shop with 28 grams of hash. Far fewer than that, probably. Out-of-state customers, who are already limited to a quarter-ounce of herb at a time, will be limited to a quarter-ounce of herb's equivalent in hash.

It's likely that the DOR will create a working group later this year to iron out details, as the department has done with marijuana-centric legislation in the past.

A related measure, House Bill 1366, which would ban edibles manufacturers from making pot-infused foods that a "a reasonable consumer would confuse with a trademarked food product" also looks like it will become law. In addition, the bill prohibits edibles makers from making pot foods that are "primarily marketed to children" and would require more stringent packaging and labeling from the marijuana industry. The bill's authors say the moves are needed to protect children, while advocates have said the language is so vague that it might even prevent them from making marijuana cookies. The state Marijuana Enforcement Division is also working on limiting the potency of edibles and is also discussing a labeling system.

Recent talk of limiting sales and potency stem from two Colorado deaths questionably linked to marijuana consumption. The first involved an underage college student from Wyoming who allegedly jumped to his death at a Denver hotel hours after eating a pot cookie. In the second, a husband killed his wife after reportedly eating pot candy.

More from our Marijuana archive: "95 Colorado applications or registrations to grow industrial hemp" and "Marijuana edibles company Dixie Elixirs settles one dispute, still embroiled in another."

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JimTom
JimTom topcommenter

Question how many .mg of edibles does someone need to ingest before they cause a medical issue or a psychological break of some kind? Don't say it can't happen, what if someone ate a dozen 200mg cookies in 10 minutes, that is way more than anyone could smoke in a day without going to sleep. What is the affect of 2400mg on the brain? Let's see how many idiots try to post an answer.

therealdeejayeyeamep
therealdeejayeyeamep

I hate dumb ass people.. Why don't they limit the alcohol potency there are still more alcohol related deaths then marijuana an they don't limit the potency, alcohol is worse then marijuana..

A Lisha Kue
A Lisha Kue

Wow thanks nosey ass clown I wasn't responding on your page by the way!!!!!! N didn't know I was in fucking school still

timdlittle
timdlittle

The courts will kill it. Their pet lawyers will make more of our tax money. Business as Usual in the corrupt AZ GOP.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!


        Get REGULATED Bitches !! ... YOU Begged for It !!

Jay Polo
Jay Polo

people will just buy or make their owne oil and make their owne editables lol

Chris Vann
Chris Vann

Question: How much booze can you buy at a time?

muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

Conservative just love that big nanny state government.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@JimTom  .... shhhh! .... don't ask the difficult uncomfortable questions about their magical miracle weed.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@therealdeejayeyeamep  ... they do limit alcohol potency via licensing, where some stores are limited to only 3.2 beer, other establishment can sell only beer or wine and not hard alcohol.


hth.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@timdlittle  ... the heat has baked your brain.


HipTip: this is Colorado not Arizona

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

*** REGULATION WORKS! ***

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

... classic stoner illiteracy.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

... so why would brain-dead bong-sucking stoners write, promote, support and vote for A64 which contained ridiculously absurd paltry limits on possession and cultivation? ... along with other CRIMINAL restrictions.


fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@muhutdafuga  


Sure mutt, it's the conservatives that love big, nanny state government.


Cough, cough, hack, hack.


Jazus!  Dumber than a frozen turd!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@muhutdafuga  ... and Stupid Stoners were Brain-Dead enough to SURRENDER TOTAL CONTROL of Marijuana over to those Prohibitionist Nanny-State Conservatives via that festering turd A64.



timdlittle
timdlittle

@DonkeyHotay @timdlittle  Did somebody fart in here? I smell KochTroll. Paid in slim jims and monster drinks to haunt message boards with words of hot empty air and Koch wisdom.

nemopunk15
nemopunk15 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotayI keep waiting to be asked to sign a petition to get your nonsense on the ballot. When might i expect that?

jeremy343
jeremy343

@DonkeyHotay Nothing stopping you from gathering signatures to introduce your own legislation, except lack of motivation and skills.

muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

@fishingblues @muhutdafuga  Hairless, when you say dumber than a frozen turd, you are referring to someone else, aren't you.  I'm confused, because as a radical right wing nut, you are predisposed to name calling and insults.  However, as a radical right wing nut, your posts are, as you said, dumber than a frozen turd. 

Poor frightened little conservatives and libertARYANs, frightened of their own shadow.  Good thing big nanny government is there to keep them safe!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@fishingblues 


"Local government have the obligation to regulate business practices.  Without such regulation to maintain a level playing field, the least scrupulous company would be able to drive their honest competition out of business."  

-- ValleyNative, self-proclaimed Conservative scum and fellow teatard circle-jerk buddy of FistingBlues 

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @timdlittle  


Poor diddle, his unit is little, but his brain is even smaller.


He's a twit and a chicken-shit, still, he wishes he was taller.   

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@jondoenumber22000 ... what's offensive is how damn uneducated and illiterate so many bong-sucking stoners are.


And you morons wonder why your public image suffers so much?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@fishingblues @nemopunk15


Nemopuke prefers to cower with his idiotic ideas and blatantly false assertions in those hyper-censored cesspools like the Denver Post, where he doesn't have to worry about being called out for his idiotic nonsense. 


The kiddie sandboxes for puerile pot punks who can't handle the truth.





fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@nemopunk15 @DonkeyHotay  


Just say NO to censorship!


If you can't keep up with the donkey boy, perhaps you could find a more juvenile message board where it will not be so hard for you.



DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@nemopunk15 ... only a delusional fuckwit like you would fantasize about getting banned from a site that doesn't ban free speech.



nemopunk15
nemopunk15 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

Everyone notice how Donkey dives into more personal attacks and insults when asked simple questions. 

On the one hand i would love you to get banned here as you have from so many other pages, but on the other i am thrilled your "home grow" and "business flow" leave you with countless hours every day to troll the westword. 


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Monkey @nemopunk15


Nemopuke -- aka Mike L. -- thinks that Doctors can recommend RECREATIONAL pot for anyone under 21 who asks for it.



Monkey
Monkey

@nemopunk15 @DonkeyHotay  Things or people worth voting for are never on the ballot. But there is always plenty on nonsense to vote for, every time. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@nemopunk15 ... need more lube for that "regulatory framework" you begged the Government to repeatedly ram up your rectum?



nemopunk15
nemopunk15 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Did you not understand what i wrote or has the mold and mildew ruined your ability to do anything other then cut and paste random insults?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@nemopunk15 ... maybe ignorant bong-sucking imbeciles like you DESERVE A64 with ALL its REGULATIONS, RESTRICTIONS and MASSIVE TAXES.


Bück Dich, sucker! ... you voted for it.


Huhh
Huhh

So you're saying you are too lazy and stupid to stand up for yourself and submit your own ballot initiative?

Noted.

nemopunk15
nemopunk15 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

Nothing about A-64 makes it harder for you to get what you would like on the ballot. 


Maybe you think that process takes place in comments sections?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@nemopunk15 ... well Mike, you're stuck with that rancid nonsense you already stained the Colorado Constitution with, the please REGULATE and TAX the shit out of marijuana Amendment 64.

muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

@JimTom @muhutdafuga@fishingbluesThat or they are arguing with an idiot like you, in which case it's not psychotic to be right all the time.

Being correct is NOT diagnostically significant for psychosis, it is more a reflection of conservatives being WRONG ON ALL ISSUES.

Now go get that Romnesia treated.

muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

@JimTom @muhutdafuga@fishingblues I AM always right, you are always wrong.  Failed reagan error trickle down economics WAS a massive wealth re-distribution scheme.  The reason I am always right and you are always wrong is not just because you are an idiot, but that's a good start!

Your laughter is hysterical laughter, a symptom of your mental illness, secondary to a STD called Romnesia.  Romnesia is known to cause stupidity, pathological lying, and loss of memory.

JimTom
JimTom topcommenter

@muhutdafuga @fishingbluesA quote from the liberal. "Unfortunately, the harm they do to the social safety net and to governmental check and balances are all to real, and all too damaging." Double talk is  the liberal way. What he means to say is it effects the redistribution of earners money to non-earners. 

You know your typical self-righteous , I'm always right pure liberal mindset makes me laugh every time I see your comments. 



muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

@fishingblues @muhutdafuga More facts for fishingforyounghairlessboys:


Both ideologies (Communism and LibertARYANism) run counter to human nature for the same reason: power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The people with the money and guns will always abuse the people who don't have the money and guns, unless there are multiple levels of checks, balances, and legal and economic protections to ensure the existence of a middle-class tax base with a stake in maintaining a stable society. The modern welfare state didn't arise by accident or conspiracy: it evolved as a means of avoiding the failures of other models.

Libertarianism is a philosophical game played by those without either enough real-world experience of localized, non-state-actor tyranny, or enough awareness of history to understand the immaturity of their political worldview. Unfortunately, the harm they do to the social safety net and to governmental checks and balances is all too real, and all too damaging.

muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

@fishingblues @muhutdafuga So what you're saying is that someone that is sooooo very limited can make you their little bitch at will?  I don't think I'm that clever, it's just that defeating you doesn't take much.A quick English lesson for you, my cute little radical right wing troll:  When you're off topic, you lose.  But while we're off topic, consider:Why Libertarianism Doesn't Work

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A bunch of libertarians have taken great offense at my earlier post yesterday on libertarianism in Somalia. The key part of that post was:

This, by the way, is why racism, theocracy and libertarianism go hand in hand, when from a philosophical point of view they should have little to do with one another. The negative effects of the lack of a central government are so obvious in developing countries that wherever the social order fails as in Somalia, it must have been due to bad religion, or the defect of having been born to an inferior race.

Ron Paul fans must reassure themselves that such things would never happen to white, Christian folk. They're immune from the Somali problem by virtue being of different stock and different values, you see.

The "Somalia" argument is a sore spot for libertarians. They either fall back on the old line of race and religious prejudice I outlined, or they claim that it isn't true Libertarianism, you see: it's anarchy. True Libertarians believe in just enough government to protect private property and personal safety; without those protections, they argue, anarchy ensues.

The only problem for libertarians is that they cannot point to even a single current or historical example of a government that functions as they imagine it should. They have no concrete, real world examples, so they ply their arguments in a theoretical construct.

Each and every example of places with little centralized government is dismissed by libertarians as an anarchistic situation, not a "true" Libertarianism. It's the "no true Scotman" fallacy, Ron Paul edition. The hellish situation in Afghanistan is blamed on 30 years of war and tribal anarchy, rather than the lack of a central government. The case of Somalia is blamed again on war, on American intervention, and again on tribal anarchy. Historical examples of feudalism arising in the absence of a centralized state, or the repeated Dark Ages that arise after civilization collapses, are dismissed as either irrelevant to the modern world or invalid because of war and anarchy. The fact that corruption and the Mafia are more prevalent in southern Italy where tax collection and central government are weaker than in the North, is again dismissed as a cultural or anarchistic issue. It's always the same argument.

Libertarianism, in other words, is infallible. Wherever it fails, it does so because the people weren't ready for it, or there was too much violence to allow it to work, or because the government wasn't powerful enough to protect people from harm.

Libertarians fail to realize that there has never been--and never will be--a government that functions according to their principles because it runs entirely contrary to human nature.

As any libertarian understands when it comes to statist authoritarians, power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. When you decentralize and remove the modern welfare state, leaving only essentially a glorified police force in charge to protect private property and personal safety, one of two things happens:

1) The central police force turns into a right-wing military dictatorship invested in stamping out all leftist thinking, then appropriating the country's wealth for themselves and their friends (e.g., Chile under Pinochet);

or

2) All central authority and protection break down completely as power localizes into the hands of local criminals and feudal/tribal warlords with little compunction about abusing and terrorizing the local population (e.g., feudal France, Afghanistan, Somalia, western Pakistan, etc.) As I said before:

Feudalism is the inevitable historical consequence of the decline of a centralized cosmopolitan state. That's because the exercise of power by those in a position to wield it does not end with the elimination of federal authority: rather, it simply shifts to those of a more localized, more tyrannical, and less democratically accountable bent.

Urban street gangs in under-policed neighborhoods, mafias in under-taxed countries, and groups like Hezbollah in Lebanon invariably step in to fill the void where government fails. When the Japanese government wasn't able to adequately help the population after the earthquake and tsunami, the yakuza helpfully stepped in to do it for them. The devolution of local authority and taxation into the hands of criminal groups willing to provide a safety net in exchange for their cut of the action is the invariable pre-feudal result of the breakdown of the government-backed safety net. It happens every single time. The people will want a safety net where utter chaos doesn't prevent it: they'll either get it from an accountable governmental authority, or from a non-governmental authority of shadowy legality. Both kinds of authority will levy their own form of taxation, be it legal and official, or part of an illegal protection scheme.

In its own way, the "No True Libertarianism" argument is very similar to the "No True Communism" of those on the far left, who argue that the fault of Communism lies not with the idea, but with the practice--despite the fact that no successful large-scale Communism has ever been implemented in the world. Neither ideology can fail its adherents. They can only be failed by imperfect practitioners.

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@muhutdafuga  


You don't honestly consider yourself clever?  Seriously, you are so fucking stupid you can't see it.


Good thing you are blinded by slow-wittedness or you would die of humiliation.

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