Alex Martines ID'd as man with fake gun shot by cops: Can you tell which of these gats is real?

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Alex Martines. Photos and more below.
Update: Earlier this week, we reported about an incident at a Lakewood Walmart in which police officers shot a domestic-violence suspect who'd aimed a weapon at them, only to discover afterward that he possessed an Airsoft gun as opposed to the real thing; see our previous coverage below.

The Lakewood Police Department has now identified the man in question as Alex Martines, who sometimes spells his last name as "Martinez." And it turns out he was already on the cops' radar.

Martines's wounds weren't life-threatening, and after being treated and released at an area hospital, he was arrested and booked into Jefferson County jail on four outstanding warrants, as well as felony menacing, domestic violence, third-degree assault and harassment.

We've included a full-size version of Martines's booking photo at the end of the post. In the meantime, here's our previous coverage, including a detailed description of the incident and a Denver Police Department photo quiz involving fake or replica guns.

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Big photos plus a video below.
Original post, 8:50 a.m. May 6: Early this morning, Lakewood Police Department officers opened fire on a man who pointed a weapon at them, only to realize afterward that he held an Airsoft gun, as opposed to a genuine gat.

The man is expected to survive the incident. Meanwhile, an LPD spokesman emphasizes that telling the difference between a real gun and a fake one is nearly impossible at times -- a point underscored by a visual quiz created by Denver police. See the quiz photos and get more details about this morning's incident below.

At about 3:20 a.m., says the LPD's Steve Davis, "there was a domestic situation going on in a car on the east side of Walmart," located near the intersection of Colfax and Wadsworth. He adds that the caller was "the female half" of a couple.

Davis emphasizes that "there was never anything that took place inside the store -- and I'm told she may work there, but I don't know that for a fact."

The couple "was in the car" when she called dispatch, he continues, "and then as we were responding, she gave us information that the man with her had a gun. There was never any indication that it wasn't a real gun -- no reason to think she knew at that point it was anything other than real."

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The scene at the Walmart, from 7News coverage.
Shortly thereafter, Davis says, "the two officers found the car and tried to give the man commands to get him out. It took quite some time, but he finally got out -- and when he did, he had this weapon in his waistband. Then he pulled it out and pointed it at the officers, and they both fired at him."

Each officer fired "a couple of shots apiece," Davis notes -- "certainly not more than six. And the suspect fell, but he wouldn't release the weapon he was holding. He appeared to be trying to raise it up again. So one of the officers covered him while the other one went back to his car and got less-than-lethal rounds -- beanbag rounds. And it's my understanding that he actually shot the gun out of his hand using one of the beanbag rounds."

Then, and only then, did the officers realize the weapon the man held was an Airsoft gun, Davis says.

The suspect was transported to an area hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. Indeed, Davis is told that he may be released to police custody as early as this morning. Once he's booked, he will be named -- a trickier prospect than usual in this case, because Davis says the man may have provided some false information about his identity.

The officers involved in the shooting have been placed on leave, per standard operating procedure in such cases, and a so-called "shoot team" made up of personnel from other law enforcement agencies in Jefferson County will investigate the incident. But Davis stresses the realistic look of Airsoft guns.

"Some of them have an orange tip on the barrel to indicate that they aren't a real weapon," he says. "But we're finding a lot of people -- especially gang members -- are painting that orange tip black, so there's no indication it's anything other than the real thing."

Did the suspect's gun have a brightly colored tip? Davis doesn't know at this point. But even if it did, he says that given the dark conditions of the face-off and the officers standing at a distance of thirty-to-forty feet when he pulled the gun, "I doubt if anyone could know immediately that it wasn't real."

Denver police made the same point last November in an online quiz that asked, "CAN YOU TELL WHICH GUNS ARE REAL AND WHICH ARE FAKE?"

Here are the first four photos of guns, followed by four more. We'll reveal the the answers to the DPD question after you get a chance to peruse all of them.

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Continue to see the next four photos in the Denver Police Department's gun quiz, followed by the answers.

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41 comments
John Elliott
John Elliott

If you're that much of an ignorant cretin that you're going to point a gun, real OR fake, at a police officer, you should plan on getting your dumb ass shot.

Tom Aigeldinger
Tom Aigeldinger

Fact: in 100% of police shootings involving a fake gun, the person that loses is the one that was holding the fake gun.

Alexandra84
Alexandra84

This idiot is threatening his girlfriend in the car and she is terrified for her life how does she know if its a real gun or not. Good for the cops we don't need stupid controlling men threatening there girlfriends in Walmart parking lots. And women look out for stupid men stop dating these mother effers. Simple as that. He needed to be put in his place next time he will think twice before threatening his women.

Betty Miller
Betty Miller

Only a true moron would point ANYTHING that looks like a gun at a police officer.

KarmaRules
KarmaRules

This same logic should be used for civilians when they are defending themselves against police who are pointing guns at them for no reason.

muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

There are too many examples of police shooting citizens.  I still remember the harmless high school student that police shot multiple times recently.....

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

HipFact -- the vast majority of armed criminals do NOT shoot people nor even fire their guns during the commission of their crimes.



Josh Bradley
Josh Bradley

Right. Because having a gun pointed at you should not be met with deadly force. You're not the brightest bulb out there. Tasers also don't always work not are they as accurate as a firearm. Don't point any gun at a cop or anybody else and you won't get shot. Very simple concept.

Brandon Scott Weber
Brandon Scott Weber

Might get it taken away..then shoved up the ole hiney hole with the mag DUMPED!

Brandon Scott Weber
Brandon Scott Weber

I don't give a good gosh damn if it shoots a potatoe oot the barrel. . Keeo ur finger off the trigger and Nevr point it at anyone u intend on pissing off!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

More Cowardly Trigger-happy Homicidal Cop Scum.

Jay Mishler
Jay Mishler

I was always taught growing up you point a gun at a police officer plan on getting shot even if its a squirt gun

Nathan Hansen
Nathan Hansen

If someone pulled an Airsoft on me I'd likely drop the idiot.

Mike Larsen
Mike Larsen

Isn't it called tazer it's just as good as one COPS should lose their gun finger they are way to happy

Ashlee Lane
Ashlee Lane

They all look real if someone is pointing it at me

Jason Smith
Jason Smith

As a rule I'm usually on the victims side in police dealings.. But it sounds like they didn't have a choice.

Shayne Barrett
Shayne Barrett

So they should wait to be shot to find out if it is real? :P

Brian Blosser
Brian Blosser

Look at the Berretta px4 storm! The pellet version is almost an exact copy of the real thing! The Cops are completely justified in shooting! When you have just seconds to determine whether the gun pointed at you is real or fake and your life is at stake.....Shoot!

Brandon Malone
Brandon Malone

Airsoft is stupid. This guy is par for the course for the type of people you find playing it.

Praveen Pepper
Praveen Pepper

From just the details in the article, sounds like the officers were not only justified, but actually took extra steps to NOT kill the idiot. He's very lucky. Now prosecute him appropriately. Airsoft specifically are made to look very real, NOT some colorful Nerf toy. People should keep that in mind.

Loren Bagola
Loren Bagola

I guess that knowing what weapons are fatal and which arent isnt a top priority for police...it is much easier to shoot first

Damon Medina
Damon Medina

Fake or not you shouldn't pull a gun on a cop unless you have a death wish.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

... like a wallet or can of soda ?


... or their back?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

... when white folk get scared.

KarmaRules
KarmaRules

You're right. Citizens should start using the same logic as police do to defend themselves....Against police.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Josh Bradley "Because having a gun pointed at you should not be met with deadly force."


That include when cops point guns at civilians?


muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

Which is why you shouldn't be allowed to have a gun.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

... have a look at my cigar.

JustMyWords
JustMyWords

Of course, picking it up & examining it closely wasn't exactly an option for the cops.

JustMyWords
JustMyWords

@DonkeyHotay  Are you as big an ass as you sound? Or are you just being deliberately obnoxious?

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@muhutdafuga  


One can 'drop' a festering turd (that's how you got here).

One can drop a fork (you know, as in fork you).

One can drop a hint  (e.g., you're fat)

One can be dropped with a right cross.


What do any of the above have to do with a gun?


You ignorant fucking bitch.  


fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@JustMyWords @DonkeyHotay  


Seriously?  He goes by the name donkey and you're asking if he is an ass?


And since I'm asking questions, how can you hear him on these silent pages?  

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