Reader: Police aren't out of control -- people are

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Raymond Garcia in a photo from his Facebook page.
Our post about the killing of Raymond Garcia, who was hit by seven (of seventeen) shots by Greeley police officers after he pulled a gun during a prostitution sting, prompted reactions that split about evenly between those critical of the cops and readers with little sympathy for their target. The following post falls into the latter category.

Jené Hammond writes:

Police are not out of control... People are.... Give an inch take a mile.... People have lost their minds and expect to be babied. And maybe if some of you people would control yourselves and stop committing crimes it would seem like such a police state.... Stop always blaming the cops!

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riceroni
riceroni

There are corrupt cops just as there are corrupt citizens. We shouldn't have to tolerate either. A cop is and should be trained to deal with situations that the normal citizen isn't. For a cop to use deadly force against an unarmed person (i.e. Albuquerque Police) beating a woman in the face who made no threatening move towards the cop whatsoever (CHP), or choking someone to death who hadn't committed any criminal offense or crime (NYPD). If you don't think that there're rogue cops who're out of control, you're either very ignorant, delusional, or just plain stupid.  

muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

Why should bad cops clean up their act when the uninformed make excuses for the bad behavior of bad officers?

MzLisa ScreamQueen Biesecker
MzLisa ScreamQueen Biesecker

Guess what people cops are human like us if you dont like what they do dont break the law and become a cop. Get paid crap and get treated like it too then. My uncle was a chief of police back home and i respect all. So shut up And do something or stop your damn complaining. Most are to scared and no balls to do what they have to.

Pete Copeland
Pete Copeland

Police are people. And according to said poster "people are out of control" so even he admits that the police are out of control.

Les Boyd
Les Boyd

My "inch" isn't the police's to give. I would love to see stories where the police tried to give people a break and the guy pushed the cop into taking action instead of cops harassing and intimidating those that they are sworn to protect.

Evan Rude
Evan Rude

We should not be using the poLICE as the "Morality Squad." The poLICE suck these days. They use too many drugs, primarily steroids and, alcohol. They're trigger happy. It seems they can't even serve a warrant without shooting your dog. I think they're practicing for the day when they can use all the military armaments funneled to them from these wars our government starts, on the very people they were sworn to protect and serve. In short, cops are punks! (y) :D

Jo Se Ph
Jo Se Ph

So if you wanna be abusive, cheat on your wife with underage girls, take lots of prescription drugs with no fear of prosecution..and also allow your son and wife who work for a company providing direct care to mentally handicapped individuals in their homes to sell said prescriptions at work to other employees...then police officer is the job for you!

Jo Se Ph
Jo Se Ph

^Just described every cop from my small hometown in nowhere USA. Even in a small town we have bs like a married deputy sheriff getting an underage girl pregnant. What did the county do? Why they paid for her abortion and gave him cop of the year, even put his picture on the front page of our local newspaper accepting the award and posing with his K-9 unit "kat"

Gary Allen Krout
Gary Allen Krout

Drunkin wife swapping fights cops shooting up their own house. Yea that's normal. Haha. Idiots.

Lora McCabe
Lora McCabe

Barry Rogers he didn't have a fucking gun wtf or let me guess you didn't read my comment Raymond was like a little brother to me you dummy

Ben Lucero
Ben Lucero

This guy is a fuckin idiot . Cop killa 4 life

Randy Robinson
Randy Robinson

No one would've been killed (or threatened to be killed) in that sting if prostitution were legal. Just saying.

Samantha Hardin
Samantha Hardin

Police are people, therefore they're out of control as well.

Scott Young
Scott Young

Police are in control.....SOCIETY IS OUT OF CONTROL!!!!

Jared Forqueran
Jared Forqueran

Something tells me this person is white, middle-aged, and middle class, and has no idea what's really happening outside of their bubble.

Barry Rogers
Barry Rogers

Have to agree with Hammond, one should expect to be shot after pointing a gun towards a police officer ... stupid move by the suspect. I'm assuming "wouldn't" was intended, (typo?) in the next to last sentence of Hammond's comment.

Lora McCabe
Lora McCabe

Raymond was my friend! You all know nothing about him and he didn't have a gun and he wasn't a part of that prostitution ring either. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Do you people have any clue as to what his family and friends are going through! He's a father, son, and brother. He had a good heart. So before anyone wants to judge know the whole story because this is such bullshit! Raymond deserves justice for what happened to him because of a cruel act done by these so called police officers. At the end of the day when their shift is over and they take those badges off they are nothing more than a civilian like you and I.

Ari Paige
Ari Paige

Police are people thus police are out of control...

Mike Carr
Mike Carr

If people aren't out of control... There'd be no need for cops, right?

Alec Revelle
Alec Revelle

As a general rule, people are assholes...

Latifah Abdul'laah
Latifah Abdul'laah

There are good cops, but if they don't speak out, they're just as guilty as the bad cops. There will be no change until the Blue Brotherhood weeds out all it's bad apples. Until then, is stupid to say is just people being out of control. The shoot first, ask questions later mentality must change. Racial profiling must be done away with.

Matthew P Gomez
Matthew P Gomez

So what are police aliens? They're people too. Only difference is they have a badge.

Benjamin Howard Brockway
Benjamin Howard Brockway

They (police) are also two to four times as likely to abuse their spouse or family somehow.

Rosa Alex
Rosa Alex

According to 2006 statistics you are correct. But here's a fact for you since 9/11 cops have killed more people than the Iraq war. It's not about a numbers game it's about the facts police are not held accountable for their actions.

Alden Condict
Alden Condict

Don't deceive yourself. The cops are fucking pigs!

Benjamin Howard Brockway
Benjamin Howard Brockway

I believe this was based off of living in the us. Its all over the net, you can google... As well as "over 5000 deaths since 9/11... more than us soldiers killed in 11 years of "operation Iraqi freedom". Pretty sure forbes even put it up.

Zach Carsel
Zach Carsel

I don't see it ending well for people fighting the police. In fact attacking the police will create more police brutality.

Zach Carsel
Zach Carsel

No they don't. They kill a lot but there are something like 1000 gun murder per year committed by gang members and 600 or so committed by cops.

L Vincent Miltenberger
L Vincent Miltenberger

We should all take better care of our own situations. Shame on us for allowing the police state to grow as much as it has...

Jessica Ward
Jessica Ward

We all are. We all feed off of each other, as a general whole.

Eric Matthews
Eric Matthews

Add Cop Block and see how many police brutality cases there are. Cops beating and killing people while handcuffed, cops killing dogs, cops throwing flash bangs in cribs, cops killing innocent people, cops tasering people to death. There needs to be more accountability. And we need to stop hiring ex military personal that suffer from PTSD and giving them a badge and a gun. This isn't war, these people are suppose protect and bring people to justice not harm or kill people. They're suppose to lay down their lives not take them.

Matthew Watson
Matthew Watson

Police are people too, his argument is thus invalid.

Mane Rok
Mane Rok

I'd be willing to bet that the reader doesn't "fit the descrip" of someone who get's profiled and thus has no idea what it's like to deal with cops except when they call them. The reality is...cops are out of control simply due to the nature of the job. If you have the power to remove a persons freedom, you yourself had better act by the book to the T....and they don't. Instead they recognize the power we've given them with the badge and human nature takes hold. We are greedy, selfish beings looking to get over at any moment and we all fall victim to that at every turn.

Desarae Nicole Buchanan
Desarae Nicole Buchanan

Last time a checked our constitution said "we the people" not " we the police officers and government". They work us, no one else.

Bret Kantola
Bret Kantola

It's years of their crusher mentality that has caused people not to trust them and act up.

Aaron Thompson
Aaron Thompson

I refer you to your article about Christopher Lopez

George Ebinger
George Ebinger

The people are not to blame. Blame for the past has only prevented the future from changing for the most part. We are all one, seriously...we can't blame the cops bc they were put into a spot to benefit from being a dirty cop and made the wrong choice and it spiraled out of control. Learn the difference between frustration and anger. But I do agree the State in general, which imposes ideas and things into our lives, has done bad tHings in changing the world for the worst. Many people so live in sheer ignorance tho. Peace, out.

Rosa Alex
Rosa Alex

Cops kill more people in the United States per year than gang bangers and random acts of violence combined. 8 of 10 of these cops are not held accountable most don't even lose their job or face jail time. Shiny badges do not grant extra rights. In this case where a man "allegedly" pulled a gun on officers then yea they had a right to defend themselves. Kind of absurd that they fired 17 rounds. Cops violate more rights than they protect and are not held accountable for it. Cops are people too most of them can be considered the "crazy people" this reader described.

riceroni
riceroni

Do your uncle try to justify, make excuses for, and cover up criminal offenses and activities committed by cops under his command?

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