Reddit-Hyped "Hash Hike" on 14er Under Attack by "Pompous A$$holes"

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Climbers on Mt. Bierstadt. Additional images and videos below.
News flash: Plenty of people in Colorado regularly engage in outdoor recreational activities after using marijuana. But the notion of a so-called "Hash Hike," slated to take place on (we're pretty sure) Saturday morning on a nearby 14er, has resulted in online vibe-harshing between the Reddit users coordinating it and more traditional climbers. Details below.

See also: CU-Boulder Student's Rescue After Mushroom-Fueled Strip During Hike Goes National

The location for the hike is Mt. Bierstadt, which a Westworder who's also an avid climber describes as being one of the easiest 14ers to summit. Its friendliness to beginners is reinforced by the following clip, entitled "My First Fourteener."

Mt. Bierstadt's accessibility means it frequently draws a crowd. During the aforementioned Westworder's most recent visit, earlier this summer, he says people were lined up on the trail waiting for their chance to move even further above sea level.

This video, featuring climbers of all ages, gives a sense of why it's so popular.

Planning to join in the fun are folks coordinating on the sub-Reddit category Ents in Colorado. The page in question is labeled "Hash Hike...The BIG one...Mt. Bierstadt, 9/30/2014."

Yes, the date references September 30, not August 30, but many of the comments allude to Labor Day weekend, among other things. One post reads, "Take only photos, leave only footprints," to which another Ent replies, "Take only photos, leave only footprints. and fat clouds of hash vapor."

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The string also features conversation about a 10 a.m. start time that strikes some people as too late and the possibility of storms. Given that afternoon precipitation has been frequent along the Front Range this summer, one person wrote, "It's a worry, no doubt. But not a huge worry. If a storm comes? it is what it is. Most likely? We won't run into a storm."

As noted by Jeremy Meyers, writing for the Fort Collins Coloradoan, the Hash Hike soon came to the attention of folks who frequent 14ers.com -- and the feedback on that site hasn't been especially positive, as indicated by the page's name, "Bunch of idiot stoners planning 'Hash Hike' on Bierstadt." Some examples of the 289 comments posted at this writing:

Why not get high, wait for the thunder to start, and then take off. You'd have a much better chance at a Darwin award.

Oh, it's one thing to put yourself at risk while hiking, but this is a near admission that these folks plan on driving back to town under the influence.

To me it's about affecting the experience of those around you. I don't care if you smoke, but I don't, and I hate the idea of breathing in anything other than air. To me, breathing in pot smoke on a hike is commensurate with breathing in cigarette smoke. Kind of ruins the experience of getting outside into "fresh" air.

These guys are clearly a bunch of fools.

Soooooo, that's wilderness, right? Also known as federal land? Where it's still illegal to smoke? I wouldn't be surprised if there's a FS ranger following them all the way up, because that's just easy ticket money right there.

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Unsurprisingly, plenty of people on Reddit have taken offense to this tone. Here's a representative response:
Most of those guys commenting don't have any idea about marijuana, and a few of them are just pompous assholes.

Apparently they all think that by me saying if a storm comes that 'it is what it is' by meaning that we'll just trek on through lightning....Seriously, that's how stupid these people are. WE'RE THE STONERS and yet THEY'RE the ones ASSUMING that we'll trek through a storm.....

No.

If we get hit with a storm, we turn around. Plain and simple. Know your surroundings. These idiots act like I've never hiked in the mountains before.

Here's hoping that everyone ends the day safely and in a higher place -- however they'd like to define it.

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frankjhoward74
frankjhoward74

Interesting story.  I'm a heavy daily user and and avid hiker.  I think some nice sativa in the mountains ads to the fresh air and enjoyable experience!  But it is true that National Forest where I do much of my hiking IS Federal land and so caution should be taken since it is still illegal to use there. But an even more important fact, is that 10am IS way to late to start a 14er, especially at this time of year.  I always start at the base around 5am and am down by 2pm at the latest!

Moonie Kim
Moonie Kim

I've also been standing right next to people smoking weed, outside, and not smelled a thing. I know this brings us back to the old "illegal smells" conversation but ffs, just wait for the wind to change direction if you can't be bothered to move your ass five feet to the left.

Moonie Kim
Moonie Kim

Maybe people should focus more on their own lives than what someone else also visiting public land is doing. It's not YOUR land, it's PUBLIC land. If you don't like what someone else is doing on it, you've got tons of other places to go without even leaving the public land in question. And what freaking "problems" have these people faced in life that are solved by whining about it? I want their problems if that's the case!!!!!

sharpe.melissa
sharpe.melissa

I've got no issue with folks smoking weed....but I was planning to hike with my 13 year old daughter up there this Saturday...Glad we've changed our plans and decided to hike something else. It's just not something I need my child to be surrounded by whether it's legal or not. 

shreddee36
shreddee36

I guess no one smoked dope on the mountains until this year. its just weed who gives a fuck anymore?

Taper Tom
Taper Tom

Wait, everyone doesn't hike high?!

GuestWho
GuestWho topcommenter

Idiots blabbing their state and federal illegal acts under their real names.  As long as people are quiet and respectful in the wilderness and don't infringe on the rights of others I don't really care what you do but the law enforcers sure will.


Will the feds respond to this report and take action against this group of hikers and others who are openly admitting to using drugs illegally on federal lands?  Will the feds retaliate like they did after the report of "smoke shacks" on federal lands in an attempt to combat illegal drug use?   Blow it up morons...

Max Padilla
Max Padilla

Who are you to tell me what's a good time or terrible idea? Sellout propaganda rag!

Marcus Tompkins
Marcus Tompkins

Imagine shrooms... hah. Anyway. So long as some silly stoner doesn't try a hayman 2.0 Who cares? Its nature, man.

Yeroc Roc
Yeroc Roc

Haven't done it, but can imagine good fun along with Biking while high

Draven Lantz
Draven Lantz

I've never gone hiking with out the assistance of psychedelics...

Dan Ruisi
Dan Ruisi

Altitude sickness is a c%nt. Don't choose a 14er.

Samuel Hulin
Samuel Hulin

People never got high while hiking before? I know for a fact I have... and just about everyone I know...

Brett Anderson
Brett Anderson

Terrible idea. I am a long time smoker and hiker and have passed out doing both. Do not do this! People die on 14ers clean and sober every year

c.burnett
c.burnett

If it bothers others so much, just start early like most everyone else does when they hike 14ers.  Problem solved

Scottrappold
Scottrappold

I gave up on 14ers.com years ago. Nothing but negativity being spewed forth by basement dwellers hiding behind anonymity.

Ed Haas
Ed Haas

This is my group that goes on these 'hash hikes'. What isn't being repeated (much, or in detail) is the very respectful way in which we go about these hikes. We always let the weather dictate whether or not we can reach a summit, or end of a trail. We also always go OFF trail when we smoke, as it's very rude to smoke around the public. ALSO, I make it a rule for everyone attending these hikes to NOT smoke the last hour of the hike so that you have time to sober up while walking back and you won't be driving home obliterated. So yeah, like I said on the 14ers site, I'll eat crow on the smoking on federal land law, I know we're breaking it, as is everyone toking or having a beer at the summits. It's like jaywalking, yes, it's illegal, but not viciously enforced because most of the people who do partake on hikes tend to be respectful like us and keep it away from other people. Crazy though how this has just snowballed, haha.

Jessica Hazel
Jessica Hazel

Hiking while high is one of my favorite things. :)

Tj Roberts
Tj Roberts

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RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

As an avid hiker and consumer of cannabis, I recommend not indulging until reaching the summit.  If there is any route-finding or dangerous terrain to negotiate, refrain until they are accomplished.  As a Class 2, out-and-back hike, Mt. Bierstadt poses no such challenges.

pueblogrow
pueblogrow

BREAKING NEWS

BREAKING NEWS

CONSPIRACY AFOOT?

Dear Human Being,


It seems some evil doers are trying to add language to the Colorado state marijuana regulations that SPECIFICALLY PUNISH GREENHOUSE AND OUTDOOR CANNABIS GROWERS!



CALL YOUR SENATOR, CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN, CALL THE POLICE!!!!


This SEPTEMBER 2, 2014 there is a hearing scheduled in Denver that you MUST attend if you are in any way concerned about the earth, the environment, oppression, the American dream, the marijuana industry or people trying to manipulate the law to their own benefit.



Public Comment Hearing September 2, 2014

8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Old Supreme Court Chambers

State Capitol Building

200 E. Colfax Ave., Room 220

Denver, CO 80203


In the NEW PROPOSED REGULATIONS greenhouse owners are SPECIFICALLY NOT ALLOWED TO REQUEST HIGH PLANT COUNTS. The special plant count extension would be reserved only for WAREHOUSE GROWERS in an attempt to protect their territory and their massive antiquated, dirty, indoor, pollution machines.  They will railroad us if you don't stand with us on Tuesday. 



Please read this:


5. Application for Additional Plants.

c. A Retail Marijuana Store THAT OPERATES AN INDOOR CULTIVATION THAT IS NOT A GREENHOUSE OR SIMILAR STRUCTURE may apply to the Division for a waiver of the plant limit described in paragraph E(3) of this rule....


That means ONLY WAREHOUSES CAN HAVE HIGHER PLANT COUNTS. You're not going to stand by and watch this travesty of justice take place are you? You're going to get involved and come to the meeting, right?


STOP PROTECTIONIST SCHEMES, CALL YOUR SENATOR, CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN, CALL THE POLICE!!!!



http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/Rev-MMJ/CBON/1251592984795


Proposed Medical Marijuana Rules for September 2, 2014 Hearing



Public Comment Hearing September 2, 2014

8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

Old Supreme Court Chambers

State Capitol Building

200 E. Colfax Ave., Room 220

Denver, CO 80203



In the document there are 4 specific places "greenhouses" are mentioned. 

E. 5. C. 1. (Page 16) Discusses not allowing an additional plant count waiver if you operate a greenhouse.

B. 1. (Page 17) Discusses limiting the plant count to 3600 if you operate a greenhouse.

B. 1. (Page 17) Discusses limiting the plant count to 1800 if you are new and operate a greenhouse.

C. 1. (Page 18) Discusses not allowing a plant count waiver if you operate a greenhouse.


All of these NEWLY ADDED CLAUSES are specifically designed to punish people who use any type of natural lighting and rewards those who choose to reproduce mother nature by burning very inefficient high powered sodium lights that put out more heat than light.  Guess what they do with the heat they produce?  They run giant Air Conditioners!


This is a direct attack on the forward thinking marijuana growers who are trying to reduce their carbon footprint and actually become carbon CONSUMERS.  This is a protectionist scheme by parties who prefer to burn cheap coal over embracing nature.  Please help us, we can't get this message out fast enough.  By the time you read this it may already be going on TUESDAY 9/2!



(Sorry for the late notice but This is so important that the "DENVER INDOOR PROTECTIONISTS" are trying to ram this down our throats after the long holiday in an attempt to catch us off guard).


Don't stand by, STOP THEM ON TUESDAY.


P L E A S E   P L E A S E   P L E A S E   PASS THIS ON!!!!

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@GuestWho You have a point, but the Feds have other fish to fry, and attempting to intercept the hash hike and catch participants in the act would be a colossal waste of time, even for them.

sharpe.melissa
sharpe.melissa

My issue is that my daughter and I had planned to hike Bierstadt tomorrow...guess our plans are changing. It's not that I have anything against people smoking weed (or drinking a bottle or 2 of beer at the top), but I have a whole lot against my teenage daughter being subjected to it in a public place and on federal lands! 


And, even though you say you'll go off trail to smoke, that doesn't mean people can't smell it. What it does mean is that you could potentially be disrupting land that is being restored or habitats that are sensitive in the area. It's disrespectful not only to the others hiking but to the environment as well. 


Also, do you know how long it takes for weed to exit your system or for you to come down from your high? Same as alcohol...it's a lot longer than 1 hour! 


Terrible idea. And just for the record, I would feel exactly the same way if it were a Whiskey Hike or a Brewery Hike...while I do partake in all of these, I don't condone doing such while with children in your presence and while partaking in dangerous activities.

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

I agree with all but not smoking during the last hour of your hike.  Based on my own experience and others', abstinence should be practiced when the route is unfamiliar or dangerous, but this hardly applies to Mt. Bierstadt -- although poor enough decisions could kill you even there.

Hoover
Hoover

When you're above treeline (like on the entire standard route up Bierstadt) and your friends 'go OFF trail when [you] smoke,' do you realize the damage you cause to the tundra? Also, doesn't hiking, or any other strenuous activity destroy your high?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase ... because no tragedies ever occur on mountain descents, eh numbnuts?

GuestWho
GuestWho topcommenter

@RobertChase   Most marijuana users didn't think the smoke shacks would get blown up either.

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@sharpe.melissa Reactionary in the extreme!  If you had read even their own representations regarding their behavior, you should have noted that the hash hikers claim to avoid smoking in front of others.  It is hard to imagine how you think that the hash hike would subject your daughter to cannabis; based on what I read, the group likely would be indistinguishable from others on the mountain.  If you want to isolate your daughter from any possibility of discovering that adults use it in public, perhaps you should consider moving to Outer Mongolia.

GuestWho
GuestWho topcommenter

@Hoover      "doesn't hiking, or any other strenuous activity destroy your high?"


"Dogs and humans love to run because it gives them a natural high similar to that of cannabis, according to the University of Arizona. 

Researchers wanted to see why some animals evolved to be better at running, such as humans and dogs, while others, including ferrets, aren't. 

Their findings suggests that this may be because after running, the levels of endocannabinoids - chemicals found in marijuana that give you a feeling of euphoria - are higher in human's and dogs and this encourages them to run again. ... They also measured the dogs and humans as they walked, while the ferrets rested.

Raichlen found that blood samples for both humans and dogs showed a significant increase in levels of endocannabinoids. 

Endocannabinoids are chemicals produced in the body. 

They can give people a natural 'high' including feelings of happiness and euphoria."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2324814/Dogs-experience-runners-high-brains-produce-chemicals-cannabis-claims-study.html#ixzz3BkroBeq9 

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @RobertChase When one is descending a Class 2 route (i.e. on one's feet, as opposed to rock scrambling or technical climbing) along a familiar route, the risks are slight.  You should read with comprehension before firing off your idiot rejoinders.  I suppose that climbing a fourteener is something else you've never done -- get out of your basement and try it!

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@GuestWho @RobertChase True, but in the present case there are no illegally-built structures on Federal lands to destroy (just a little evanescent cannabis-smoke wafting over them).

I see an interesting exchange on the subject of enforcement of cannabis laws in National Forests at:

http://14ers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=41622&p=505341; the advice (suggested there) of not allowing anyone not in your group to see or smell it makes good sense, especially in light of the hash hike's exposure -- the possibility of an undercover USFS Ranger or two on the summit cannot be ruled out.

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @RobertChase That report (from three years ago, early in the season when there was still a lot of snow at elevation) is not entirely accurate; one of the deaths occurred on the Sawtooth Ridge connecting Mt. Bierstadt and the West Ridge of Mt. Evans, which requires rock scrambling and has some exposure.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase "That report (from three years ago ..."


Because the Mountains have changed so dramatically in the last 3 years, eh fuckwit?



RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @RobertChase You are so tiresome; weather conditions at the time made hiking more hazardous.  Your replies make it seem that you read no more than one sentence or even less -- spending too much time on facebook?  Climbing a fourteener need not be dangerous.

Hot.Sauce
Hot.Sauce

Is it more or less dangerous stoned?

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@Hot.Sauce No such generalization should be attempted.  It depends very much on other circumstances, but I find the effect of cannabis unhelpful when care should be taken discerning the appropriate route; I also do not like to engage in an endurance exercise (climbing several thousand feet up) after using cannabis.  I have taken what I consider to be a somewhat neutral position:  enjoy cannabis while you hike if you want, but do so responsibly -- if the route involves challenging terrain, cannabis may be contraindicated.  By analogy with driving, just as one would not want to smoke out on indica, then go drive around the DC Beltway for fun at rush hour, few if any hikers are going to plunge into dangerous terrain after getting stoned.  I attempted to generally characterize how cannabis may be safely used on a fourteener:  Class 2 hiking (i.e. staying on one's feet at all times; not having to use one's hands) up a summit, getting high, then returning by the same route.


Starting at 10AM, the hash hike may be at some risk from lightning due to the fact that the entire route is above treeline and that they'll be on the summit after noon, but the forecast looks good.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase



"Cannabis poses no threat to traffic safety" -- Robert Chase


Lying cunt much?

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @RobertChase Why don't you go strike up an argument with the academics who think that our rate of traffic fatalities is being driven down by the net effect of the use of cannabis?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase "By analogy with driving, just as one would not want to smoke out on indica, then go drive around the DC Beltway for fun at rush hour"


So which is it, you flip-flopping fuckwit?

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @RobertChase You really are crazy -- there's no conflict between my posts at all.  The point is that cannabis has far more effect on one's intentions than motor coordination or judgment; it is possible to imagine someone very stoned in a situation in which they should not be (causing a collision), but generally people are able to titrate the dose for a pleasant, safe effect -- or so I judge the situation for all when the risk of dying in a highway collision is decreasing; it is so hard to argue with success!

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @RobertChase


Stinky, I knew you could be found on this thread, given that you are  the biggest "pompous asshole" around.


I see bobbie the Socialist continues to kick your punk ass.  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase "The point is that cannabis has far more effect on one's intentions than motor coordination or judgment ..."


More idiocy for Robert's Archive of Shame.



@RobertChase "but generally people are able to titrate the dose for a pleasant, safe effect"


Generally beer drinkers do the same, but it's still illegal for them to drive on PUBLIC roads while under the influence.



Hot.Sauce
Hot.Sauce

So it is ok to get stoned and drive around DC during rush hour?

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @RobertChase


Fucking  moron! 

"Generally beer drinkers do the same ..."  

In order for this to be true, alcoholism and "potism" would be synonymous.  That's right stupid, there is no such thing as "potism".  

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@Hot.Sauce Probably, if you really feel like it, but my opinion will not serve as a defense should you be arrested.  I will be completely explicit (not that that will help you or Donkey):  people may sometimes be so impaired by cannabis that it precipitates collisions, but in general, cannabis poses no demonstrated threat to traffic safety; the very few of the former likely are outweighed by the many who drive more prudently when stoned (i.e. by speeding and tailgating less).  The distinction between individual cases and behavior in aggregate should not so difficult for you two to grasp.  Should you drive around stoned?  If you need to ask, possibly not.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@fishingblues <== still too stupid to know he's stupid


" I have plenty shit for brains " -- fishyblueballs

muhutdafuga
muhutdafuga topcommenter

@fishingblues @DonkeyHotay Yet your own posts afe without content, fishingforyounghairlessboys, except for your mindless insults.  You haven't had a thought in some time.

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