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Pot Legalization is Boring and Colorado Is Filled With NIMBYs, say NY Times Readers

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New York Times columnist Frank Bruni was back in Colorado last week, eating (and tweeting) at Acorn, attending a book signing for Helen Thorpe's Soldier Girls (which not only earned a good review in the Times, but a rave in People, of all places) and, it turns out, researching this weekend's column describing this state as "A Battleground and Bellwether."

See also: Helen Thorpe, Ex-Colorado First Lady, Lauded on the Daily Show for Soldier Girls

"Given all of the smoky talk about Colorado and marijuana," Bruni begins, "you arrive here with the feeling that you're stepping into some freaky, one-of-a-kind laboratory. And you are. But the experiment goes well beyond the responsible legalization and regulation of pot."

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Frank Bruni.
Colorado is where the country's tricky issues are being hashed out, and many of those will affect the upcoming election, Bruni writes. And while Governor John Hickenlooper compares Colorado to a test tube that keeps getting filled with new ideas and shaken, sort of this decade's California, Bruni compares it to a different state: "In many ways, Colorado is the new Ohio, a political bellwether."

You can read the entire column here. But the comments -- well over 100 by this morning -- are the real required reading. A sampling:

From sunny 20:

As a New Yorker turned Coloradan 40 years ago, my greatest fears are being realized: Colorado is beginning to look like, and act like, New York. Too many people now telling us what's good for us, a cult of personality around a decent governor, but one whose actions are often modified by political expediency, a population willing to risk its youth for the false god of marijuana prosperity, and hypocrites like Udall and Romanoff who use negative and scare tactics to bamboozle women and minorities. Their appeals, in and of themselves, are demeaning to the women and minorities they court, and their attacks are in stark contradiction to their self-professed personas. In other words, Colorado, once unique and special, is becoming like every other power seeking state. Too bad.
Says G-man:
Colorado is a poster child for the Not In My Backyard (NIMBY) movement which sprang up in the 1970s. People who want all the benefits of a modern industrial society without shouldering any of its responsibilities and drawbacks.
From Ellen K:
Colorado has suffered more or less from being a landing spot for ex-pat Californians. They go there complaining about the restrictions and snafus of the state they left behind, yet continue mindlessly supporting the type of politicians who grow the government at expense to the population. That's what is happening in Colorado. Colorado's roots are far more conservative than the current political flow as show. And that is because like California, the urban centers are controlling the outcomes. There's a reason some counties sought to secede. Government is supposed to reflect the views of the people who send them to the capitol. Instead they are starting to reflect the goals and desires of lobbyists. That style of government has ruined California and is currently destroying Illinois and Michigan.
from michael195600:
I grew up in Colorado Springs in the 60s and 70s, and I shudder when I think of what it has become. Perhaps it is all the military installations situated there that has enabled the religious right to gain a foothold.

But I also have many friends who still live there, and they certainly do not vote Republican.

Despite the strange affinity for gun rights, most Coloradans are sane, thinking citizens of our country. I applaud the state, and its citizens, for their ability to work out issues in a nonpartisan manner.

The rest of the nation would do well to pay attention.

And finally, Patricia brings the conversation back to the beginning:
I'm in Aspen right now and I have to say that marijuana legalization is more boring, professional and discrete than I ever imagined in my non-wildest dreams.
Have a tip? Send it to patricia.calhoun@westword.com.


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106 comments
John Pinnick
John Pinnick

This story has ran about 5 times over the last 6 weeks or so. Westword is BORING and ColoRADo is awesome.

Aaron Alexander
Aaron Alexander

Stay the fuck in New York if its so fucking great. Smoke your import shit and enjoy your shitty weather. There's a reason so many of us imports arrive here and never leave.

Chris Woolf
Chris Woolf

This article wasn't painting Colorado in a bad light. In fact, it was saying we kind of set the standards/examples for the rest of the country. Try reading more than just the headline if your going to spew negativity... or comment at all, really.

Jessica Pombo
Jessica Pombo

Uhm...1) i dnt see rats crawling around my streets...2)its called being a responsible toker!...just like booze...one must know their own personal limits...and if you dont there are classes for that ;)

Mike Kolb
Mike Kolb

Most east coast people are clueless about the west.

Andy Shredlinger
Andy Shredlinger

They would a point, except that they live in New York so it's mute and a pointless debate. It's like saying Kansas has too many cows and dirt roads are boring.

Dian Feral
Dian Feral

So New Yorkers should come here.

Stacy Christine
Stacy Christine

For those who didn't read the piece, this is the actual quote: "I'm in Aspen right now and I have to say that marijuana legalization is more boring, professional and discrete than I ever imagined in my non-wildest dreams." That's not an insult. All the comments highlighted by the author are benign. But give it a Westword "People hate Colorado!!!! What are you going to do about that!?!?!!?11" headline, and let the comments flow.

Justin Day
Justin Day

Being from NY I want to punch these people in the face. Shuuuuut up!

Ryan Patrick Logan
Ryan Patrick Logan

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. However bashing my home and it's residents is one I disagree with so I would rather not meet this man.

Justine Espino
Justine Espino

Ummm because I care what someone I don't know who lives thousands of miles away thinks.

Jay Dubya
Jay Dubya

They're absolutely right; wrongly imprisoning people is way more exciting. Imagine Shawshank Redemption without it. BORING!

Nathan Embree
Nathan Embree

Go back to New York where they can stop and frisk you on the street for no reason. Maybe for a little added excitement you'll get tazed or choked out by the NYPD.

Adam Johnson
Adam Johnson

That's the rich asshole that says he skis and goes on vacation to ski five days of the year and fucking stops the lift all the time cause there $2000 fur hat won't stay on!! Dipshit lol

Adam Johnson
Adam Johnson

Mother fucker you live in New York!!! Keep your shit heel opinion in your shitty state and leave ours beautiful without you. "If you don't like my fire then don't come around cause I'm gonna burn one down"!!!!

Justin Jordan
Justin Jordan

Stay I New York then bitch. Better not see this idiot at any of out "nimby" ski resorts

Jimmy Hersh
Jimmy Hersh

Who cares.. Dumbass stoners are dumbass stoners.. Doesn't matter where you live... A loser is a loser.. I need a bong hit of medicine dude!

James Guero Nunyabiz
James Guero Nunyabiz

Amazing how people seem to keep speaking on something so boring. ... Worry about what you got going on over there in New York.

shadar
shadar

Someone commented that Colorado was part of the "left coast". Ha. Despite the CA imports, CO still has too many gun-happy American Taliban for that. You want to see the real left coast, go to Portland or Seattle. Or most places in our sister province of BC or extreme northern CA. Hard to find any American Taliban west of the Cascades. 


Cascadia (both the region and the separatist movement) are radically different than Colorado or the lower two-thirds of CA. Thankfully. And as one of the Cannabist editors noted this week (after visiting Hempfest), weed is much better integrated here. Legal shops aren't as big a deal in WA because excellent local weed is for sale everywhere, regulated or not. Only one Rec shop is open in Seattle and nobody really cares. 


When one of our Seattle cops got carried away writing $27 public consumption tickets for weed, he got taken off the street until his attitude improved. Even our City Attorney proudly smokes weed. Evergreen state is green in more than one way.


Let Colorado jump up and down as the hyped, overheated, obnoxious poster child for regulation and its challenges. We don't want to harsh our NW mellow. Regulated pot is for tourists and suckers. De facto legalization is what Cascadia is all about. 

Mike Halsted Colosimo
Mike Halsted Colosimo

Imma Southside Chicagoan Who Da Fuck Is New York? All I Gotta Say Is Let Me Know When Y'all MF Air No Longer Smells Like A Fuckin Dumpster Full Of Dirty Diapers Ive Been To New York And Ive Been To Colorado And I Must Say Colorado Is A Much Better Place To Be And Raise Your Family, Coloradoans Cool As Fuck, And The Medical Dope Is Great For My Seizures. I've Been Living Here In Colorado For A Lil Ova A Year Now And I'm Definitely Considering Making It My Home Away From Home #FallBacknyTimesReaders

Melissa Tracy
Melissa Tracy

Notice the time this article was post... lol nice.

Wendy Dennie
Wendy Dennie

Westword: The paper who likes to stir the shit-pot on marijuana legalization. Time for a fresh "news" angle, Westword, if you want to truly consider yourself journalists.

Stasia Crane Biggs
Stasia Crane Biggs

I live in the springs and had a job there for many years till I took one in denver after my masters degree. The quality of my chidlren edcuation is great in D12 and we have a good quality of life with a typical family with parents and 2 kids, a conservative family and lifestyle. We do not believe pot should be legal or consumed.

Nicole GuBrath
Nicole GuBrath

See! You work in Denver! You don't even have a job in COS. Sure, people can commute an hour each way to Denver and back, but that definitely takes away from quality of life AND family time.

Celedonia Cepriana Castro
Celedonia Cepriana Castro

Ya what ever. Have you looked at the plates on the road. Most of them are from NY . So give it up. Denver is an will always be the best place the live .

Stev En
Stev En

I honestly keep on forgetting that it's legal. So does everyone else who were supposed to smoke more.....

Kathy Wedzik
Kathy Wedzik

its boring in Florida without cannabis!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amy Linder
Amy Linder

Meh, anything to try to keep up readership. Not terribly in depth. How about how Denver is one of only 12 U.S. cities that has four major sports and the largest stock show in the world, or that Denver has the largest park system in the nation, or that the Denver Performing Art Complex is the 2nd largest performing arts center in the world...take that NYC, because Coloradoans love being outside in our sunny weather we are also one of the healthiest states according to the World Health Organization! Newspapers are disappearing all over the country, they are getting desperate. I'm proud that we were forward thinking enough to legalize marijuana. After all look at the disaster called "Prohibition." Sure there will be an adjustment period, but we'll sort things out and no one is forcing anyone to smoke anything. Now let's talk about something that really matters in Colorado, like our limited water resources and frakking!!!

Sean Valdez
Sean Valdez

WESTWORD you fucking suck this is subliminal just wait until the opposition starts attack dispensaries it will happen just wait they have to overturn it somehow.

Francisco Garcia
Francisco Garcia

ok, so i think about this a lot! all the people who come out to live in colorado, or even just to visit say its weird because anywhere else everyone talks and its like just a big party in any given city, our clubs you have to go with a group otherwise its weird, there is no communication between strangers here, and anywhere else you go there is, i dont think this is because of pot, but this NY times reader has a "kinda" point, Coloradans are boring, we dont know how to talk. but pot isnt why i think. but who knows it actually might be

Chris Heller
Chris Heller

These idiotic bun fights over which state is better are childish. I've lived in the American West just about my whole life and this peidmont here with a so so view of the mountians to the west is nothing special not to mention there is the whole rest of state. I suppose more New Yorkers want to move to Colorado than vice versa but really that doesn't mean too much.

Skyler Thimens
Skyler Thimens

Natives? You wanna talk natives? This state does not "belong" to you because you were born here.

Steve Potts
Steve Potts

I hope this article keeps more New Yorkers staying there than moving here!

Nicole GuBrath
Nicole GuBrath

I know a ton of people with good educations here in Colorado Springs who are woefully underemployed.

Gianni Archangelo Tanza
Gianni Archangelo Tanza

Maybe they should read the graduation and retention rates for colleges and universities here in CO (per capita) and compare them with those of their shitty home state.

Stasia Crane Biggs
Stasia Crane Biggs

Well my kids go to good schools and have as a family a good quality of life. Of course , beign educated I can see things differently. There are great IT and education field opportunities here in springs. Of course again dependant on having an education.

Cody Lott
Cody Lott

Since you lov nyc so much I bet your even more priuf of wall st

Shawn Q Ahlers
Shawn Q Ahlers

New Yorkers can piss off! Self righteous, narcissistic douche bags...

Heather Doozer
Heather Doozer

pot and NIMBY's? sure you're not talking about SF?

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