Scientology's got a hold on you: Five believers you might not expect

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The guy who invented Scientology also wrote this.
The dark empire of Church of Scientology, well known for its extensive real-estate holdings, expanded its reach in Denver yesterday by throwing down $8.5 million in cash money on a new facility to house its secretive minions. Believed by its adherents to be the one true path to enlightenment and by pretty much everyone else to be a crazy pyramid scheme, the organization and its practices have an undeniably sinister-seeming quality about them that can't help but make you a little nervous. On the other hand, if Doug E. Fresh is in on it, maybe you can't go too far wrong.

Of course, it's no surprise that somebody like, say, Tom Cruise is a Scientologist, because that guy is just sort of creepy. But not everyone who follows the path is so vaguely menacing. Thus, though we run the real risk of litigation by mentioning the Church at all, here are a few self-proclaimed Scientologists who give us pause:

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5. Doug E. Fresh
Also known as "The Human Beat Box," Doug E. Fresh made his name sampling the theme from Inspector Gadget in a hip-hop song and went on to become the esteemed spokesman for the Hip Hop Public Health Education Center in Harlem. Apparently, Fresh got turned on to Scientology nearly a decade ago by his then-girlfriend (making him, by his own account, the first hip-hip artist to convert), who'd been turned on to it by Isaac Hayes. The girlfriend dropped out of the Church. Fresh did not. "I found it fascinating," he's said.

4. Isaac Hayes
It's no big secret that Isaac Hayes was a Scientologist -- he famously left South Park as Chef after the "Trapped in the Closet" episode that took on the religion -- but given that he also once wrote the awesome theme to Shaft, it's just sort of weird. Also, that South Park episode is where it gets ominous: There has been much speculation that Hayes was pressured into leaving the show by his Scientology "monitors," who might have even just quit for him after he suffered a stroke.

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3. Jason Lee
His religion on My Name Is Earl might have been an adorably naive sense of karmic duty, but in real life, his religion is the science of science. And not only is Lee involved, but he's heavily involved; for one thing, he's on the board of directors for the "Citizens Commission on Human Rights," which sounds nice until you realize it's a Scientology-backed organization "dedicated to investigating and exposing psychiatric violations of human rights." Oh, did you not know that Scientology has a weird preoccupation with the evils of psychiatry? You do now. Then again, that's not really any weirder than the Catholic Church's preoccupation with the evils of birth control. What is weirder than that, however, is Lee's ex-wife's interview with the National Enquirer, in which she notes that if she sees a Scientologist, "I cross the street."

2. Beck
Beck kept his lifelong Scientology on the DL until he came out with it about five years ago; evidently, he's second-generation. "It really helped my father," he said at the time. Sure, he's a weirdo, and weirdness seems like a Scientological (can you call it that?) by-product, but Beck has also been the very pillar of ironic detachment since he combined dog-food stalls and beefcake pantyhose way back in the time of chimpanzees. All we're saying is, it seems weird that Beck buys into a religion at all, let alone one as cult-like as Scientology. Then again, maybe it makes sense.

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1. Charles Manson
Before starting his own cult and committing multiple murders, Manson dabbled in Scientology during his second stint in prison. But after 150 hours of "auditing," in which a Church member attempts to help you relive the "amnesia" of your past and help you discover your "true self," Manson was reportedly so desperate to get away from his "auditor" that he asked the warden to put him in solitary confinement. Evidently, Scientology was just too freaky for him.


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Nickelback
Nickelback

If you like to see and track the logical development of new ideas, THE Dianetics/Scientology book to start with is Ron Hubbard's "Evolution of a Science."

It's shorter than "Dianetics, the Modern Science of Mental Health" and a lot easier to read. The long book, "Dianetics," is after all a textbook, so logically it does require some brain cells and some serious attention to grasp it and apply it.

All the people I've spoken with who "didn't like it," had tried to treat it as a coffee-table book. That just won't work. It needs to be read carefully, ideas weighed out, some diagrams drawn, odd words looked up, etc., etc.

OTOH, Evolution of a Science is light and interesting introductory reading.

Nickelback
Nickelback

Your b.s. on Manson is total, cancerous, false, hate-speech. Manson lasted about 20 minutes inside a Church of Scientology before the staff spotted him as a nut-case and politely ushered him out.

Anybody who told you he had *any* counseling--even as much as two minutes--is loading you up with lies that make you look stupid to your informed readers.

Sorry, but that Manson info is just plain stupidly wrong.

ScottP
ScottP

Can you imagine an ad campaign for Buddhism, where Buddhists speak in first person to the camera, proclaiming "I'm Swaimi Baba and I'm a Buddhist!" Scientology's new ad campaign is the perfect illustration of a religion designed to serve the ego.

Doclutz
Doclutz

Luege8who owns more real estate than the ctholic church and who is more secretive than that?

No i don't know, who you please tell us how much and where they are. By the way your spelling is wrong for the church name, you id mean catholic, i will be looking for a reply.Thanks

Tyedog
Tyedog

Charlie Manson was indeed a good example of the effects Scientology can have on an unstable person. The police found Scientology materials and an "E-meter" when they raided his ranch.

Lordyburns
Lordyburns

Scientology has relaxed laws for those who have money or fame or both & strict rigid non forgiving laws for those struggling in life.This shows how the bottom line is a need for money & a need for the famous to endorse them.

Thomas
Thomas

I have been around Scientologists for 35 years. They are the nicest bunch of people you are likely to run into. My wife and I did a communication course years ago where you do actual drills, and that saved my marriage. Yes, Scientologists step on toes -- they don't like seeing kids turned into drug addicts to feed drug company coffers when all those kids needed was better nutrition or perhaps some help understanding something they missed at school. It's basically legalized drug pushing. I am not surprised that people come out of the woodwork to keep their profits flowing. Fact: Scientology works. It is truly amazing.

ScottP
ScottP

I'm glad it worked for you, but the fact is that you're in the extreme minority. Scientology has been losing members for years. If it actually worked for most people then they wouldn't need to prop it up with their mega-ad campaigns, with the "Golden Age of Tech" campaign. If it actually worked, they wouldn't need to market it so.

The Peace Pilgrim said the kindest thing one can say about religions like Scientology. -"Any religion that charges money to follow their beliefs is an immature religion."

That's about the nicest thing one can say, but, well, she was The Peace Pilgrim, so she was pretty nice.

The Dali Llama wasn't so kind, but I can't paraphrase it accurately so I won't post it here.

I also find that Scientologists know very little about other schools of thought outside of Scientology. Scientologists have a very closed and narrow pov, because, as they travel up the bridge, their ability to discern outside of Scientology's principals becomes radically compromised.

It really makes a mess out of most people by simply stealing their money without services rendered, and narrowing their point of view.

Jessica Sideways
Jessica Sideways

Google doesn't need to (and has never needed to) run ads on television promoting their products, after all - their best advertising has been word of mouth. If Scientology delivered the successes it promised, then why would they need to advertise on the television, Internet and in print? If even the State of Clear were real, surely the name of L Ron Hubbard would truly be known as "the friend of humanity" that he paints himself as than the greedy conman that he was.

But here's what reality is, he was a lying, constantly ill, drug-addled conman.

ScottP
ScottP

They are very nice people. Hard working, caring, etc. Totally correct. It's just their Church that's dysfunctional and dishonest.

Rob Burns
Rob Burns

Fact: The only thing that works in scientology is their lawyers! About 100 of them are on retainer to sue, at the drop of a hat, anyone who dares to say Hubbard was a charlatan! Forced abortions! Destruction of families. Financial ruination. Threats! Intimidation! Working Sea Org members 100 hours a week with no time off and paying them 36 cents an hour!

If it walks like a cult, quacks like a cult and looks like a cult...well, you make the call!

www.xenu.net / www.xenutv.com / wwwexscientologykids.net / www.whyaretheydead.net

HateSpeechAlert
HateSpeechAlert

The report on Manson is false, false, false.

Manson was interviewed, quickly seen to be a nut case, and escorted to the door.

ScottP
ScottP

Actually, if Manson was interviewed then, by Scientology's definition of membership, he's a Scientologist.

One should go to the library and read more for themselves. In fact, one should "try" reading Dianetics to see if they can actually get through the confusing prose. Then, read other religious books and compare/contrast how they are written vs.Dianetics. Watch videos of L. Ron Hubbard, was he ever photographed without a pose? Are their any videos of his volunteer work? I believe you'll find the answer to be: NO!

What you will find is a delusional individual who treated his family horribly, behaved like a criminal, and had truly ugly TEETH!

Guest
Guest

Manson says that you guys were the crazy ones and I've never heard he was a liar, Scientologists on the other hand. How much did he pay for that 150 hours of auditing? He didn't coincidentally run out of money and then get shown the door?

I thought Scientology has all the answers and you can help people but you just turn them away? I've read Manson's story, maybe if someone taught him a trade or showed a little compassion things could have turned out differently. There's no excuse for anything he did but he did come from a brutal environment, which I believe breeds brutality. I'm afraid that Scientology only seems to teach brutality so maybe there was no hope for you to offer.

Rob Burns
Rob Burns

Bull!

The cult has been trying to live down, for years, the fact that Manson was a member. Come on! Scientology has Satanic and black magic roots! Manson was a perfect fit!

The "Shore Story" (scientology's words for lying) was Hubbard was sent by Naval Intelligence to help save a girl in Pasadena, CA. that had gotten involved with Jack Parsons and his Satanism practices. The truth? Hubbard was a active practitioner of Satanism and black magic! He old son, L. Ron Hubbard Jr. said in a magazine interview," You have to understand, my father didn't worship Satan, he thought he was Satan."

Louanne
Louanne

It's complete bull that Manson was a Scientologist.

Rob Burns
Rob Burns

"It's complete bull that (Charles) Manson was a scientologist."

He had 150 hours of auditing and had an e-meter in prison. The Cult has tried to bend over backwards to deny this. Makes perfect sense has the goal of this cult is to control people and gain power over them. Manson was probably the best member they ever had!

Guest
Guest

He'd have the super-powers that you do and be able to fool the stupid wog guards into letting him escape if he was, right?

Black_PR
Black_PR

In the mid-late 1990's, for being nothing more than an outspoken critic of Scientology here in Colorado, Scientology hired private investigators to harass me, my family, my friends and even sent veiled threats to my employer. They threatened to sue me over a webpage I was running at the time until the Colorado ACLU and the EFF came to my defense. I have never been a Scientologist. All I did was speak out. They will viciously harass critics, ex-members who dare speak out and anyone else they perceive as being an enemy. For an all-too-typical example, you can google Operation Freakout, or see the Wiki entry on the same: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O...

Many critics have reported the kind of harassment experienced in Operation Freakout, but it was only because of FBI Raids of Scientology churches that documents outlining Operation Freakout were found. Those criminal Tactics continue today, and this organization -- more Mafia than religion -- needs to be shut down.

Rob Burns
Rob Burns

Hey Black_PR

What you ran into is SOP or Standard Operating Procedure for this cult! I'm glad your persevered! My friend, Mark Bunker (www.xenutv.com) is doing a full length feature film on this cult. He would probably like to interview. You can reach him at: markbunker@gmail.com

Best of luck and thanks so very much for standing up to this vicious, evil and militant cult.

If scientology was a country it would be North Korea.

If the Nazi's had started their own religion, it would have been scientology.

Using film metaphors, scientology is a cross between Star Wars and The Exorcist.

Scientology is a cross between the Moonies and the Mafia.

Guest
Guest

Scientology is an organization that writes down the personal confessions of it's members so yeah it's really hard to understand why people find it hard to leave or at least don't badmouth it.

Scientology makes sense in the sense that L Ron cherry-picked psychology and ceremonial magic from Aleister Crowley but the parts based on psychology work because they're just exploiting the human condition. L Ron bragged that he could brainwash people faster than the KGB.

steve6f8eh
steve6f8eh

The ambiguous assertions, naming other website as their source (which names other unconfirmed sources) is typical of the folk who just love to go after the CofS. Scientology helps people....the millions of people helped, and remaining involved, say so. There are a couple of dozen naysayers who we also hear from. "dozens of deaths" from doing the Purification Rundown? What a load of nonsense. As for Psychiatric Drugs and Psychiatry, Psychiatrists themselves admit they have no solutions “We do not know the causes [of any mental illness]. We don’t have the methods of ‘curing’ these illnesses yet.” —Dr. Rex Cowdry, psychiatrist and director of National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), 1995 , and if you look a little deeper, you will see how they are the lap dogs for the Big Pharma. There are trillions of dollars behind this industry; no wonder you will find people who will find reason to criticize their detractors, like the Church of Scientology; they are bought and paid for with money received from the public and our own government.

Think for yourselves people; don't believe me or the others. Go to a library and read a book, then decide FOR YOURSELF if it makes sense or not. You have to decide who your enemies really are, then remember the old adage "your enemy's enemy is probably a good ally"

Rob Burns
Rob Burns

"Think for yourselves people; don't believe me or the others. Go to a library and read a book them decide FOR YOURSELF if it makes sense or not."

I agree wholeheartedly! Start with "A Piece of Blue Sky." Hubbard said, "Let's sell these people a piece of blue sky." " L.Ron Hubbard - Madman or Messiah"

But the biggest treasure trove of info on this cult is: www.xenu.net / www.xenutv.com / www.exscientologykids.net / www.whyaretheydead.net

Lin
Lin

Steve says "Go to a library and read a book, then decide FOR YOURSELF if it makes sense or not."

I have an even better idea. Why read a book that has been edited multiple times from what the author originally intended? Why not listen to an actual lecture audio recording of the actual founder? Those are all over Youtube. Then you can quickly decide FOR YOURSELF what a loony-tunes the founder was. And about Xenu.

Guest
Guest

Steve's a bit cagey about whether he patrols the internet for Scientology so yeah I wouldn't believe him.

Luege8
Luege8

mortgage companies and bankers couldn't do anymore damage than what's been done

anonymous3636
anonymous3636

Hayes died of a stroke on a scientology-approved treadmill machine, whilst indulging in a dangerous regimen called the "purification rundown," after Scientologists dismissed his neurologist. He is one of dozens to die on the regimen, which requires strenuous exercise and toxic megadoses of vitamins. Scientology literally killed him.

Brussell1000
Brussell1000

We should only leave Scientology alone when they stop holding their members as prisoners, tearing apart families and physically beat their staff. Scientology is a seriously dangerous criminal cult convicted of serious crimes in the US, Canada and France. And yes, Scientology's prohabition on medication leads to death... google Jeremy Perkins.

James Village-Wolf
James Village-Wolf

I dont see any judgement within this article that wouldnt apply to other major religions. In particular the part stating that the church is "well known for its extensive real estate holdings"...does this not apply to all other major religions as well?

Luege8
Luege8

who owns more real estate than the ctholic church and who is more secretive than that?

fabsaragirl
fabsaragirl

This article in the necessity behind it barely makes sense to me, especially in the 21st century, supposedly the age for political correctness, diversity and ideological tolerance. What Isaac Hayes believes in has nothing to do with my respect for his acting craft, and I will still watch Inspector Gadget regardless of what Doug E. Fresh chooses to do on Sunday. Let's leave these people alone and let them enjoy their chosen spirituality. I am happy for them that they have found something that helps them survive and thrive in their daily lives.

rita
rita

" I will still watch Inspector Gadget regardless of what Doug E. Fresh chooses to do on Sunday" LOL, that statement is hilarious!

Have you ever considered that leaving where all the money this cult charges it members goes? Buying empty buildings! Let's just make sure they are paying the taxes they owe!

dagobarbz
dagobarbz

Isaac Hayes' Scientology beliefs probably contributed to his death. Stroke victims aren't supposed to indulge in strenuous exercise, yet Scientologists are taught that exercise and plenty of vitamins are all you need to stay healthy. Stroke victims need a little more than that simplistic recommendation.

Isaac Hayes was found dead alone, next to a treadmill.

Next up, how Scientology beliefs contributed to the death of Jett Travolta.

When you believe that all drugs are bad, including the ones that keep you alive, these things happen. Our goal is to keep it from happening to someone else.

HateSpeechAlert
HateSpeechAlert

You're passing on very false "information." I know Scientologists take medicines like anyone else. But not psychiatric meds. You're just generalizing and that's sloppy thinking.

Your info about vitamins and exercise is likewise prejudiced and twisted.

With all these "mistakes" you've made, it's pretty clear you're out to purposefully misinform people about Scientology.

Hint: You know you're on the wrong side of an argument when you find yourself lying.

Rob Burns
Rob Burns

Wow! I guess this cult has been "on the wrong side of an argument when you find yourself lying" since its inception! They even have a course to teach its members to lie effectively! It's called TR-L!

Organized Scientology will go down as the one of, if not THE, biggest scam of the 20th century extending into the 21st century. The number of suicides this cult has had, for its very small numbers, is truly frightening. The evil midget that runs the show crowed that they have 10 million members. Yeah, right. Only 25,000 people in the U.S. have said they were scientologists! They claim 250,000 in Australia. The facts? They have 1,200 in all of Australia. No more than 35,000 worldwide.

This group is a vicious, militant and evil cult. And that's being kind...

dagobarbz
dagobarbz

As I said, look it up. I gave you a couple of names. Unfortunately, there are many more victims. I know, I've heard the arguments. My friend, an ex-member, was told to put up signs in the org urging people to "see a doctor." He also pointed out that this was only a sham.

Scientologists will see a doctor for a broken arm. If you have schizophrenia, you're out of luck.

Brianzai
Brianzai

Isaac Hayes died of a stroke...It had nothing to do with the church at all. Im not sure where you get the info that scientologists are against needed medication, that is just not true. I don't recall reading anywhere that all that is needed to stay healthy is exercise and vitamins. I think you are confused scientologists are not christian scientists.

Rob Burns
Rob Burns

Don't think so. Hubbard dismissed the germ "theory" as bunk. Everything is "in your mind." He said cancer of the blood came about due to this statement: "It makes my blood run cold." Hubbard was in poor health all of his life, as well as a drug addict. He died a broken shell of a man with, are you ready, psychiatric drugs in his system. They tried to get the body cremated immediately, but the coroner wasn't buy it. That's the same as finding out the Pope is a practicing Satanist!

I'm old OT7. Formally the highest level attainable. Scientology is, simply put, a: mind bending, brainwashing, family destroying (And that's their policy!), First Amendment hating, U.S. government hating (Just like Al Qeada!), public schools infiltrating (scary!), criminal enterprise cult with Satanic and black magic roots.

To see their most "sacred scripture" go to: www.xenu.net. Scroll down the home page all the way to the bottom where it says, "Always Remember to Laugh." Click on "South Park Takes On Scientology." Let it ramp up and enjoy the show! Why do they keep this so super secret? Because if they told you upfront what they actually believe in, you'd be ROTFLYAO (Rolling on the floor laughing your a** off!). After which you'd be walking ou the door with all of your bank accounts still intact!

dagobarbz
dagobarbz

I think you are the one who is confused.

You think Scientologists are in favor of medicine? Google Jeremy Perkins and Linda Waliki.

That's how Scientologists deal with serious mental illness.

anonymous3636
anonymous3636

Hayes died of a stroke on a scientology-approved treadmill machine, whilst indulging in a dangerous regimen called the "purification rundown," after Scientologists dismissed his neurologist. He is one of dozens to die on the regimen, which requires strenuous exercise and toxic megadoses of vitamins.

Rpontopix
Rpontopix

What about needed psychiatric medications? Don't you find it a little odd that Issac Hayes was ok with the South Park episode publicly before quitting privately? Given how little of the total you're allowed to see and can afford to purchase, what makes you think the rest of us don't know things about Scientology you dont?

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